. >> good afternoon everyone. this meeting will come to order. welcome to the december 8th 2025 regular meeting of the use and transportation committee of the san francisco board of supervisors. i'm supervisor myrna melgar, chair of this committee joined by vice chair supervisor cheyenne chen and supervisor

bilal mahmood. the committee clerk today is john carroll and i would also like to acknowledge jim kawana from s.f. captive for helping us broadcast this meeting. mr. clerk, do you have this any announcements? >> yes, thank you, madam chair. please ensure that you silenced your cell phone and other electronic devices you've brought with you into the chamber today. if you have any documents to be included as part of any of today's files you can submit them directly to me. public comment will be taken on each item on today's agenda when your item of interest comes up and public comment is called please line up to speak along your right hand side of this room. alternatively you may submit public comment in writing in either of the following ways. first you may email your comments to me at j o h and period c a r r o l l at sfd of your g or you may send your written comments by us postal service to our office in city hall. the address is one dr. carlton bigelow place room 244 san francisco, california 94102 if you submit public comment

in writing i will forge your comment to the members of this committee and also include your comments as part of the official file on which you are speaking. >> items acted upon today are expected to appear on the board of supervisors gender of december 16th 2025 unless otherwise stated. thank you very much mr. clerk please call item number one agenda item number one is a resolution adding the commemorative street name bryan craig kelly way to hollister avenue between jennings street and engel street in recognition of brian craig kelly and to enshrine his legacy in the bayview hunters point community . thank you we are joined by supervisor sharman walton from district ten at the sponsor of this legislation. >> welcome supervisor. thank you so much chair melgar and just want to say to the public that this is a long time coming. we have been working with the family on this commemorative street name designation for quite some time to honor the name of brian craig kelly who

was gunned down years ago and hollister is the street that he grew up on. he is a member he was a member of the baby hundred point community, an upstanding member of the community. he has comes from an amazing family and he has family here with us this afternoon and so just excited to to bring this forward so that we can honor his memory and do right by his memory. >> thank you. thank you so much for your efforts. supervisor walton, let's go to public comment on this item. >> thank you, madam chair. land use and transportation will now hear public comment related to agenda item number one brian craig kelly way if you have public comment for this item please come forward to the lectern at this time i'm pointing it out with my left hand. i think that we have some speakers who are ready to speak on this item. madam chair, it appears we have no speakers.

okay. thank you so much. i would like to be added as a co-sponsor of this legislation please supervisor and thank you on behalf of all mothers and children in san francisco for acknowledging this without mr. clerk let said that i will make a motion that we send this out to the full board with a positive recommendation and i failed to close public comment. >> i'm going to do that now. public comment is closed. i madam chair, i forgot to mention that this item was so no, that's correct. madam chair, i'm recording a motion from you that this item be recommended to the board of supervisors on that motion. >> vice chair chen chen i remember mahmood mahmood i chair melgar i melgar i madam chair there are three eyes. >> thank you. that motion passes. thank you. supervisor walton with that mr. clerk let's go to items two through four together please. >> agenda item number two is a

resolution declaring the intention of the board of supervisors to vacate portions of high street, griffith street and bancroft avenue for the development of the fire department training facility at 1236 carroll avenue and setting a hearing date for all persons interested in the proposed vacation of street areas. within that that item is on our agenda as a potential committee report and may be sent for consideration by the board tomorrow, december 9th, 2025. agenda item number three is an ordinance amending the zoning map of the planning code to change the zoning use district designation of various parcels along the full width of bancroft avenue between griffith street and howe street and the full width of griffith griffith street and high street between carroll avenue and armstrong avenue collectively known as the 1236 carroll avenue project from production distribution and repair district to two public changing the height and bulk district designation of the aforementioned parcels and the assess and assessor's parcel block number of 4852 lot

number one from 40 x to 90 x the ordinance affirms the planning department secret determination and makes other findings. agenda item number four is an ordinance ordering the vacation of portions of hall street griffith street and bancroft avenue for the development of the san francisco fire department training facility at 1236 carroll avenue reserving public utility and access rights in favor of the city and easement rights for existing parking and overhead electrical facilities. it approves the interdepartmental transfer of the street vacation area from public works to the fire department. authorizes official acts in connection with the ordinance, affirms the planning department secret determination and makes other findings. madam chair, thank you very much. >> we have a few presentations from the fire public works and planning department but before that i will turn it over to supervisor walton in whose district this project is and thank you chair mcguire. >> it looks like we've got a few items on the agenda this afternoon. one just want to say that this

is very important for the city and county of san francisco for the fire department but also exciting for the bay behind his point community to have the fire training center as someone who has participated in fire ups and had the opportunity of course to learn from our fire department and to see the amazing work that they do every day and community to have a facility like this in your own backyard is something that i think will be benefit to all of our community. >> there are benefits that are coming along with this facility in terms of street improvements ,opportunities for jobs and resources. >> so just wanted to say that i'm happy to be here to support all of these items and look forward to moving these forward. so this state of the art training center can be in our community. >> thank you. thank you so much, supervisor walton the first presenter that we have is gareth miller, assistant deputy chief for the san francisco fire department.

>> you have that show whatever you all think. >> yeah because the oc oc excuse me. >> so yes let's have a planning go first. >> good afternoon supervisors. >> i'll be brief. rebecca salgado planning department staff on october 16th 2025 the planning commission passed a resolution by a vote of 6 to 0 recommending approval of the zoning map amendment ordinance to the board of supervisors. the commission did not request any modifications to the ordinance as proposed this concludes the commission report and i'm available for any questions. >> thank you. okay so we will now have a gareth miller welcome deputy chief. good afternoon super chair melgar supervisors it's a pleasure to be here and thank

you for the opportunity to address this legislation and the project that it impacts. as you know since 1866 the san francisco fire department has been protecting lives and property but today we are truly an all hazards agency. in addition to extinguishing fires or mitigating medical emergencies, behavioral crises and effecting technical rescues. the current fire department training facility was built in 1954 and most of our training occurs at the formal naval facility on treasure island that's scheduled for demolition at a new division of training all of our sfd firefighters, emts and paramedics will begin their service. they'll take up the mission and the values of the fire departments and return throughout their career for skills maintenance updates and professional development. the legislation you're considering is a foundational component of this project which is truly essential for our department and our city. thank you. >> thank you so much. and we have also scott moran from the san francisco

department of public works. thank you, madam chair supervisors. i apologize for the miscommunication earlier so i'll give you a quick overview of the project and the legislation. the project is a consolidation of the two existing training facilities for the san francisco fire department one on treasure island and one in the mission at 19th and folsom. these two facilities are going to be consolidated and moved to a new facility at 1236 carroll avenue in the bayview district. >> this shows a rendering of where the project is or the site is relative to the surrounding area. it is across the slew yosemite slew from hunter's point on the south side and just west of the old candlestick park location. it is directly across from the original alice griffith housing which has since been demolished and the new housing is just to the east or the right of that.

this area has the surrounding uses directly to the north is a light industrial pdr two and then directly to the west is a site owned by a company prologis and it currently does organic material. recycling directly to the east is california state parks land. that land they are eventually planning to build a state park visitor center and then the prologis site to the left has a potential option of building a four story distribution center at that site. directly south is part of the candlestick point redevelopment area a mixed use of housing and high density and then more light industrial to the left. >> the planned buildout of this site puts all of the occupied buildings which are the main classroom, the apparatus building and all the support buildings up against carroll.

and then at the back of the property are the unoccupied training structures. there's simulated buildings that are not occupied and they're only used for training purposes that simulate a variety of different conditions in san francisco. there are all the access to the site will be from carroll avenue, the primary access being on the east side. >> this is a rendering of what the build out will look like. again, the training buildings which are a mix of different kinds of buildings in san francisco in the back on the left and then the occupied buildings more in the red color at the along the front of carroll. the improvements also include all new street improvements and trees along carroll avenue . the this is another rendering showing it from a different perspective looking towards hunter's point. this is the main primary entrance for all vehicles coming and going from the site as well as the public entrance.

this is the pedestrian entrance from carroll avenue and then just looking down some of the improvements along carroll avenue. the legislative overview this site is actually made up of 26 individual parcels on two city blocks and three paper streets streets that have never been built. the total legislation includes the vacation of the three streets and the planning code map amendments to change the zoning from pdr to £0.02 and the bulk height from 40 x to 90 x street vacations. this shows more clearly where those streets are the paper streets that have never been built. three of them and then this shows in perspective of those three streets and they basically because of the landscape and the slopes it'd be very difficult to actually build streets and they would go nowhere because the bay the bay is right there shows another

view also showing that it drops off 15ft on the north side. in those paper streets there are some existing utilities. there is a large box newer 18 by 18 that san francisco public utilities commission. and then there's also a three foot six by two foot nine sewer main that runs under griffith street on the far west side of hall street on the left side of the page. you can see the green lines. those are the overhead power lines that feed the two buildings directly to the north of the site. the industrial buildings. for the existing utilities we have met with ppg and e and we have easement language that's incorporated into the ordinance also for puc and pga. we have the easement language for puc. we have a memorandum of understanding that was signed for this property regarding the

use of the space and going forward the adjacent landowners who would be affected by the closure these two. the vacation of these two streets, the state parks to the east and prologis to the last have both written letters of support for the vacation. >> the planning code map amendments. this shows the the site relative to the existing use and the mix of pdr two and p and the plan is to change it all to p. >> the bulk height change is primarily due to the fact that we have two taller training structures one that is a training tower that seven stories tall to simulate an apartment building or an office building and then also a simulator two communications tower 80 foot tall to do rescues of people who might have been electrocuted from a tower. this shows the build out of the site relative to the potential

future build out of candlestick park are not a candlestick point development and the building to the south or the east of the site the west of the site i'm sorry. and then the next page shows sections. this is looking down carol to the east showing the heights relative heights compared to the future development across the street for the candlestick point development. the two taller buildings are purposely pushed as far away from carol. so it's not an imposing element in the design. then looking from carol at the bottom of the page and looking north towards the slew it shows it relative to the potential future building that would be built to the left. this again shows that rendering of the site with the simulated communications tower in the center and then the tall tower for office building simulation community outreach. these are all the different meetings that we've had with

the community. the one in particular i wanted to point out was january the number six which was on august 20th. it was a meeting of the bayview hunters point citizen advisory committee where they voted unanimously early to recommend to the planning commission commission the approval of the planning code map amendments. so in summary the street vacation we have legislation of the street vacations the three paper streets and then the planning code map amendments to change the zoning and the bulk height that is the summary of it. but in addition to that we submitted this morning madam chair, some amendments to the ordinance and those were in response to some comments that we received from jeannie about some specific requests. that was the primary area was focused. i've also been told by the city attorney to point out that based on the street vacation laws, the january 6th meeting that is proposed for the

hearing of the street vacation will require the board to sit as a committee of the whole while considering the ordinance . and that is it and i have opening up for any questions you might have. >> okay. is there are there no more presentations? okay, great. thank you so much. i don't see anyone on the roster with questions or concerns among my colleagues. so with that let's go to public comment on this item please. mr. clerk. >> thank you, madam chair. land use and transportation. we will now hear public comment related to agenda item numbers two, three and four which all relate to the proposed project at 1236 carroll avenue and a potential street vacation order . if you have public comment for these three items please come forward to the lectern at this time. >> madam chair to present those speakers. okay. public comment on this item is now closed. >> supervisor walton did you

want to make any further remarks before i make a motion? >> no thank you chair. okay. thank you chair melgar i just want to make sure that obviously these three items go forward to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> okay. thank you very much supervisor but i because it's a little bit complicated and there's amendments i'm going to take them one by one and so first i would like to make a motion to send item to file number 250821 the resolution of intent street vacation for 1236 carroll avenue to the full board of supervisors with a positive recommendation as a committee report as amended we have an amended it yes okay. i'm sorry let's do the amendment first. sorry let's do the amendment as was circulated madam chair, agenda item number two is the resolution that schedules the committee of the whole among other things and the amendment that would be necessary for

agenda item number two is just to slot in the date in time for that committee of the whole hearing dates that we can conduct all of our noticing it fills in a blank that is on the notice. >> so let's take a vote on that first on the amendment. >> thank you. and the date and time that's proposed is january sixth. >> it is a first meeting of the year for the point meeting is 3 p.m. on a motion offered by chair melgar to amend agenda item number two to include the committee of the whole hearing date vice chair chin chin i remember mahmood mahmood i chair i melgar i madam chair three eyes on the amendments thank you so that motion passes. so now let's go to item number two file number 250821 as amended i'd like to make a motion that we send it out as a committee report to tomorrow's meeting on the motion by the chair that the resolution

in agenda item number two be recommended as a committee report as amended for consideration tomorrow. vice chair chin chin i'm going mahmood i chairman ogar i melgar madam chair, there are three eyes on that motion. >> that motion passes. thank you. and now i would like to make a motion to send item number three file number 250823 the planning code zoning map at four 1236 carroll avenue to the full board of supervisors meeting on tuesday, january 6th, 2026 with a positive recommendation on the motion offered by the chair. that agenda item number three be sent with the recommendation of land use and transportation for consideration at the board meeting on january 6th, 2026. vice chair chin chin i'm mahmood mahmood i chair melgar i melgar i madam chair there are three eyes on that motion that motion passes so now item number four file number 25082 for the street vacation order

and interpret part mental property transfer for 1236 carol avenue i'd like to make a motion to adopt the amendment as read into the record for item number four on the motion offered by the chair that agenda item number four be amended as presented by the department vice chair chin chin i am member mahmood mahmood i chair melgar i melgar i madam chair there are three eyes thank you. >> and finally i'd like to make a motion to send item number four file number 250 8 to 4 as amended to the full board meeting on tuesday january 6th without a recommendation as amended on the motion offered by the chair. >> that agenda item number four be sent as amended for consideration by the board on january 6th, 2025 without the recommendation of land use and transportation. vice chair chin chin i member mahmood mahmood i chair melgar

i melgar i madam chair there are three eyes on that motion. >> okay that motion passes. thank you. >> thank you supervisor walton the next 102 okay. all right. thank you. let's go to item number five please. >> agenda item number five is an ordinance delegating authority to the public works director to vacate certain streets and public service easements in the petro hope s.f. project site generally bounded by 26 wisconsin 23rd missouri 22nd texas 25th and connecticut south of 25th streets including portions of 22nd 23rd, 25th 26th arkansas. connecticut. dakota. texas. missouri. wisconsin streets turner terrace and watchman way. to expedite implementation of the hope s.f. project it authorizes the city to transfer its interest in the vacation area to the san francisco housing authority or the project sponsor delegating to the director of property authority to grant, accept and terminate easements to facilitate the street vacations it adopts a public works order

recommending the street and easement vacation processes waives application of administrative code chapter 23 regarding real estate transactions to the extent inconsistent with the ordinance finds that the street vacation areas are exempt surplus property under the california surplus land act authorizes other official acts as defined within the ordinance in connection and adopts findings under sequoyah as well as findings of consistency with the general plan and the priority policies. the planning code section one a 1.1. this item is also on our agenda as a potential committee report and it may be sent for consideration by the board during their meeting tomorrow december 9th, 2020 five. >> thank you so much mr. clerk. we have seana yates here from

public works. >> welcome. okay. good afternoon supervisors melgar chen and mahmud. my name is shannon gate sam, a project manager with public works. i'm joined today with colleagues from the mayor's office of housing and community development public works subdivision and mapping and the potrero hope a safe development partner who are available to after this presentation to answer any questions you may have. today i'll be presenting on a proposed ordinance that will delegate authority to the director of public works and the director of real estate to approve vacation of certain street and public service easements in the potrero hope development area to facilitate implementation of the development agreement. potrero hope s.f. received approval of a development agreement in 2017 and is proceeding in phases to complete the redevelopment and reconstruction of new public streets, utilities and open spaces within the 38 acre site. the infrastructure phase one is complete and phase two is nearing completion. demolition of existing unoccupied buildings in the phase three area will be completed next year. >> the graphic on the right shows in bold dash line the picture of hope a safe

development boundary and the existing streets that will be vacated in the future subject to this ordinance are shown in gray. the anticipated phase lines are also shown in for reference this ordinance proposes to delegate authority to the public works director to vacate streets and public service easements within the potrero hope a safe development boundary and delegate authority to the director of property to execute and record deeds for transferring interest in the vacated area to the housing authority or project sponsor to facilitate the development agreement and grant accept and terminate easements needed for street vacations. >> this ordinance would also perform other related actions listed on the slide including waiving any conflicts of the administrative code. chapter 23 declaring the vacated areas exempt from surplus property authorizing necessary official acts to implement the ordinance, adopt secor findings and confirm consistency with the city's general plan and planning code. >> the proposed delegation delegation has been recommended

for approval by both the planning department and director of real estate and is supported by most key housing authority of san francisco and the development partner as evidenced by support letters found in the items board file under the current process and without this legislation each application for street vacation requires full board approval by ordinance which takes at least six months from date of application because the development is proceeding in phases. >> multiple phases of street vacations would be required under the proposed delegation of authority public works would be able to evaluate applications, coordinate with the affected city departments and make determinations for street and easement vacations without requiring further board authorization. >> this would greatly reduce the amount of time and effort involved for approvals required to support the development. this ordinance ordinance recognizes the necessity of street and easement vacations within the development area to fulfill the intent of the development agreement and deliver new public streets and utilities that will support

new housing and public spaces. >> public works would continue to review applications and perform the same steps to evaluate for approval including conducting a public hearing confirming the street or easement vacation facilitates delivery of the project and is appropriate based on phasing incorporates any necessary conditions including provision of easements or access requirements and also confirming all the conditions that would have been required for board approval including making findings and under the california streets and highways code approving and sewer map and legal descriptions for the areas to be vacated assigning apms for the affected parcels, obtaining planning department's general plan consistency and scope findings and that the developer has demonstrated a good faith effort effort to obtain consent from the adjacent property owners once this process of completed public works would then issue and record an order approving the vacation with any required conditions.

>> i hope today's presentation has demonstrated the benefits of the proposed legislation to facilitate and expedite the redevelopment of the potrero hope s.f. project and request that the committee move this ordinance forward to the full board with a positive recommendation. thank you. i'll take any questions you have. >> thank you so much miss gates. that was a very thorough presentation. i appreciate it. let's i don't see anyone on the roster with questions so let's go to public comment on this item please. >> land use and transportation you will now hear public comment related to agenda item number five street vacation for various streets related to the petra hope s.f. project. if you have public comment for this item please come forward to the lectern at this time. madam chair, it appears we have no speakers. >> public comment on this item is now closed so i would like to make a motion to send this item to the full board with a positive recommendation as a committee report a motion offered by the chair that this

ordinance be recommended as a committee report. vice chair chen chen i member muhammad mahmud i chair melgar i melgar i met i'm sure there are three eyes i think you that motion passes let's go to item number six police agenda item number six is an ordinance amending the planning code to allow additional uses as principally or conditionally permitted in historic buildings citywide exempt historic buildings in certain eastern neighborhood plan areas from conditional use authorization otherwise required to remove production distribution and repair institutional community and arts activities uses and from providing replacement space for such uses. make conforming amendments to provisions affected by the foregoing including zoning control tables. it also affirms the planning department score determination and makes findings of consistency with the general plan in the party policies and planning code section 121.1 as well as findings of public necessity convenience and general welfare under planning code section 302.

like the previous item this item is on our agenda as a potential committee report and may be sent for consideration by the board at their meeting tomorrow, december 6th, 2025. >> it is on our agenda as a committee report but it's the the we have gotten a request from the mayor's office to continue this item to the call up the chair so that we can work out some details particularly as it pertains to buildings in districts nine and 11 as i understand it. >> is there anything that you want to add? ms. gluckstein no, that's correct. >> we are requesting a continuance and thank you for your work with us on that. supervisor melgar i just wanted to mention for the public who might be tuning in that we we do plan to incorporate amendments coming out of the recommendations from the public at the last hearing to specify that formulary tail hotel uses and cannabis uses in chinatown. but working with district 11

supervisor chen citywide to ensure that cannabis uses those controls would not change as as would be the case for hotel uses and formula retail uses so we're working on those amendments and appreciate your patience with this ordinance. >> thank you. thank you. ms. cox thanks so let's go ahead and take public comment where it can continue this item and i will make a motion after public comment. >> land use and transportation will now hear public comment related to agenda item number six adaptive reuse for historic buildings. if you have public comment for this item please come forward to the lectern at this time we may have a speaker approaching . >> afternoon supervisor cynthia gomez you know here local two so if i understand the announcement right this what i'm about to say is moot and will mostly apply whenever this is reheard but wanted to

just flag that i think our issues as the last time the last time as regards to hotel use were amended and so assuming that that we are that we'll get a chance to read them we will have read them before the next hearing and it sounds like there'll be more to discuss as well. so i think that that's all we need to say now and we will be back whenever this is reheard. >> thank you, ms. gomez do we have any further speakers for agenda item number six, madam chair okay. >> public comment on the site is now closed and i would like to make a motion that we continue this item to the call of the chair on the motion offered by chair melgar that this ordinance be continued to the call the chair vice chair chin chin i remember mohamad mahmood i chair melgar i melgar i madam chair there are three eyes in queue that motion passes at let's go to item number seven please agenda item

number seven is an ordinance amending the planning code to first require property owners seeking to demolish residential units to replace all units that are being demolished. second, require relocation assistance to affected occupants of those units into former occupants who vacated due to harassment improper buyout agreements owner moving owner move ins pursuant to the lease act or other serious and imminent hazards with additional assistance and protections for lower income tenants. third, modify the planning code definition of demolition. fourth, modify the conditional use criteria that apply to projects to demolish residential units amending the administrative code to fifth require landlords to provide additional relocation assistance to lower income tenants who are being required to vacate temporarily due to capital improvements or rehabilitation work. sixth update the standards and procedures for hearings related to tenant harassment. seventh require additional

disclosures and buyout agreements. eighth require an additional disclosure in notice of intent to withdraw units under the ellis act ninth making various non substantive changes and clarifications affirming the planning department secret determination making other findings throughout the ordinance. >> madam chair thank you so much mr. clerk. >> supervisor chen the floor is yours. >> thank you. supervisor thank you chairman for calling it i really appreciate all your collaborations as we moved this legislation closer to the final form and i understand that supervisor mal gars amendments are also ready today toresent and final committee to be considered but before we move those amendments my office would like to work on additional standards to achieve deeper affordability in parity equity geographies since we my office don't have this amendments ready. so i would like to require referral back to the planning commissions. so i would like to make a request to duplicate the file

today and with that i pass back the four to you supervisor malka to present your amendments. >> thank you. okay. thank you so much supervisor chen and it has been a complicated set of circumstances and complicated legislation. i'm so grateful to you and your staff for tackling it and including so many people in the discussion really particularly grateful also to milana and the planning department for all her work in our city attorneys who have worked overtime on this one. >> so i'm grateful for that. unfortunately this piece of legislation didn't receive as much you know, press as the family zoning plan and it's too bad because i think this will be by far more impactful and it covers the entire city as it should have. you know, years ago. and i appreciate everybody's work and very much appreciate the patience of the advocates

who have put in also long hours and to getting this right. there are provisions here such as assistance for tenants temporarily moving out for capital prepayments for fire damage that are long overdue. i think in all of our districts we've experienced this and i'm happy that we had this vehicle to improve things for tenants on those long standing situations. i have some friendly amendments as you alluded supervisor chen which were drafted in partnership with the advocate and thank you again to the city attorney for all their work. they are substantive so they are going to have to sit for a week before we vote on them. >> the first amendment starts on page 13. >> it is to rejigger the conditional use criteria that the planning commission uses when granting demolition permission so that three of them are now require permits in order to be granted permits rather than options.

>> the three criteria have to do with first complying with the relocation assistance for tenant not harassing tenants and third properly filing a buyout agreement with a rent board. then on page 1617 and the criteria that the planning commission uses to determine whether a project has reached a threshold of 70% that are also reordered after an h. then on page 21 section 317.2 would be amended so that the landlord who conducted a good faith buyout but failed to do so perfectly can petition the rent board to ruled that they substantively complied with the spirit of 37.9 e's buyout requirement and on page 55 the process for a landlord to petition the rent board is described and also sets a timeline to make this decision in that completes my amendments. i don't know if you have any further comments on that. >> supervisor chen okay, so if

that is the case and i don't see anyone else on the roster and there's no other questions ,let's go to public comment on this item please. >> mr. clerk thank you madam chair. land use and transportation will now hear public comment related to agenda item number seven tenant protection ordinance if you have public comment for this item please come forward to the lectern that i'm pointing out with my left hand. and if you're waiting for your chance to speak you can line up to speak along that wall but please come forward you the first speaker you may begin. >> good afternoon supervisor zack eisenberger with young community developers. we want to thank supervisors chen and melgar for their diligent work on this critical legislation. we also want to thank supervisor chen and the committee for moving to duplicate the file which we hope happens which will enable us to continue developing pig specific demolition protections a critical component of this legislation. strengthening pig specific safeguards would fulfill the core purpose of these designations protecting communities that have shouldered much of the city's growth while experiencing the greatest inequities. we also want to voice our

strong support for rep's request to continue tightening the demolition definition. fully closing loopholes related to renovictions is vital to ensure tenants are not displaced through construction practices that circumvent the intent of the ordinance. thank you again and we hope to move this work forward with the duplicated file and we look forward to continuing our collaboration to ensure strong equitable protections for tenants and parks. >> thank you. thank you for your comments. next speaker please. >> madam chair, members of the committee can fujioka in with chinatown committee development center and also with the san francisco anti displacement coalition. i want to express our appreciation for both supervisor melgar insofar as the chen for working on this complex piece of legislation and recognize the staff that have put in an extraordinary hours. i know we just got amendments about well at 1:00 today we're looking through them and you

know, i have to say it looks looks good to us and on on first of you i think you know, i think the whole project this whole challenge of of trying to one of the one of the key challenges it is the threat of evictions displacement in the city is so high it's increasing today and we're we we in the it is enormously challenging to protect tenants against all the pressures that the new incentives for development create. so but i i want to again appreciate the efforts to to address those issues and anticipate those challenges in advance so we understand this will be coming back next week and but again, thank you all for your work. thank you for your comments. do we have anyone else to this public comment for agenda item number seven?

>> okay. public comment on this item is now closed. so mr. clerk, as i heard it a supervisor vice chair chen wants to duplicate the file before we make the amendments and refer it back to planning to talk further about priority equity geography is can we do that so that would mean that the version of the ordinance that we have right now with no other amendments gets referred back to the commission for consider that that way will be different from the amended file that we vote on. >> deputy deputy city attorney brad rusty i think the committee could amend the duplicate file next year and have that amended version go back to planning for consideration or i or i could be i guess referred back now and have those amendments discussed there before coming back to the board when they're made unless the clerk disagrees with that procedure i think

normally the amendments would be made here and then sent to planning if it required referral back. >> correct. but the amendments that we're making today are do not need to go back to planning. the amendments that need to go back to planning have not yet been written but it is about the you know having further protections in geographe feet priority equity geography areas which is a different concept, right. i understand that. i'm just saying it normally i think the amendments would be made to the duplicate here and then referred back to the commission for consideration but i think this procedure will work. >> i think this will work. yeah. okay. so i'm recording a duplicate of the item that is on our agenda presently unamended. >> that's where we're at so far and that was at the request of supervisor chen and then for the original file i would like to make a motion that we adopt the amendments as i read into the record place on the motion that the original file be amended as presented by chair

melgar vice chair chen chen i remember mahmood mahmood i chair melgar i melgar i madam chair there are three eyes on that amendment thank you and since my amendments are substantive i would like to continue this item to the meeting of monday december 15th as amended on the motion by the chair that the original file be continued as amended for consideration in next week's land use and transportation committee meeting december 15th, 2025 vice chair chen chen i remember mahmood mahmood i chair melgar i melgar madam chair there are three eyes on that motion thank you and let's go to item number eight please. we still have the matter of the duplicate file which i recommend that you continue to the call the chair. >> i'm sorry. yes. let's continue the duplicated file to the call of the chair on the motion that the duplicated file be continued to

the call the chair vice chair chen chen i member mahmood mahmood i chair melgar i melgar i met him chair there are three eyes thank you thank you. okay now let's go to item number eight please agenda item number eight is a hearing on the status of san francisco's electric vehicle curbside charging feasibility study status of the electric vehicle curbside charging pilot next steps for implementation of a scalable public electric vehicle curbside charging program and requesting the mta department of the environment, public works and public utilities commission to report . thank you. this is very exciting and we are now joined by board president rafael mandel min. the floor is yours. >> thank you chair melgar and thank you colleagues for making time on your agenda today to hear from our city departments about the city's efforts to roll out ev curbside

charging. this is an a topic i've been interested in for some time mainly because i hear from i constituents on a regular basis wondering why we don't have it when they see other cities in the united states and in her nationally moving forward with curbside ev charging it's a conversation that i started having more earnestly with mta and department of environment and other departments back in 2023 and we work we're work began working with them on asking them to look more systematically at opportunities for implementing a scalable ev curbside charging program in san francisco in march of last year we we passed a resolution supporting the efforts of the department at that time to implement a curbside ev charging

feasibility study that they actually had already begun and urging the office of the mayor and departments to leverage all available funding sources to implement a curbside ev charging pilot program this year. >> the study was completed earlier this year and i believe today we're going to be hearing about what that study found and the mayor the prior mayor last year got a jump on the pilot and rolled that working with departments the mayor's office joe swiss at the time rolled out a pilot inviting ev companies to make proposals to put their chargers on our on our sidewalks. in april of this year we saw a cop we saw a couple of those chargers roll out. we're going to hear more today

about that pilots about what they've learned about where we're going from here and how we get more of these on our sidewalks. >> so with that i believe we have nicole appen zeller senior clean transportation special list at s.f. environment who will kick us off. >> great. good afternoon to providers. before i begin i just want to confirm that our presentation is working and as effective you will be. >> please display the slides. there we go. great. thank you again. my name is nicole lapin. zeller and i serve as the city's electric vehicle ombudsperson at the environment department. i'm here today on behalf of our inner agency city team working on curbside ev charging in san francisco. and i'll be presenting alongside broderick paolo from s.f. mta. and i'm joined by colleagues from sfe, mta, dpw and sfp c to

help us field questions. we're also joined by shannon delaney from it's electric who will also be presenting on their experience on the curbside pilot as a current office of emerging technology permitting. this joint presentation is in response to supervisor raymond coleman's resolution calling for a curbside charging feasibility study. >> our goals today are to provide context for why a curbside charging is important. sure findings from the feasibility study and demonstration pilot and outline our next steps for building a long term program. our role at the san francisco environment department is to act as san francisco's climate accountability coordination and equity engine. this work is guided by the city's clean transportation commitments in the 2021 climate action plan. as a transit first city we prioritized walking, biking, rolling and transit. but at the same time we recognize that many residents, commuters and visitors still rely on vehicles where vehicles are necessary. we want them to be zero emissions. our targets are ambitious.

25% of registered private vehicles are electric vehicles by 2030 and 100% by 2040. >> to reach these goals we must ensure the right charging infrastructure is in place. a 2020 international council on clean transportation study found that san francisco will need 1760 public chargers by 2030. we currently have 1067 level two chargers and 237 dc fast chargers installed. that leaves the need for about two excuse me for about 450 additional chargers within the next five years. an mta recently secured funding to install 250 level two chargers in city owned parking garages which will make a significant contribution toward meeting our 2030 goals. curbside charging is just one small piece of the puzzle. a robust network must also include home, workplace fleet and public charging. much of the expansion will happen off street at city owned garages, retail parking lots and fast charging hubs.

these sites generally have fewer traffic or jurisdictional conflicts but are often far away from where residents live and park and may require drivers to charge during costly peak hours. that's where curbside charging fills the gap. it offers the closest option to at home charging for the 60% of san franciscans who rent or live in multifamily housing without dedicated parking. our rough target is 100 curbside chargers by 2030 to help meet this near home need. to date the city has taken several steps. we've completed the charging the curbside charging feasibility study to explore business models and identify priorities sites. we've launched the mayor's demonstration pilot which created a new permitting pathway and brought in vendor funded pilot sites. we've secured 150,000 of prop l funding through s.f. cta to support a portion of long term planning and implementation. and right now we are finalizing the demonstration pilot installations and shifting toward citywide planning. this next phase will focus on establishing a permitting pathway site selection process and partnership model for long

term deployment based on lessons learned from the study and pilot. our goals for a citywide curbside program include prioritizing overnight charging for renters and multifamily residents without onsite charging by focusing on lower power level two chargers in locations with a high density of renters and multi-unit dwellings and avoiding commercial corridors. planning for demand while also ensuring equitable equitable deployment that means prioritizing areas with high charging needs but also encouraging deployment in underserved neighborhoods both where charging is limited today and in vehicle reliant areas where vendors may be hesitant to invest their own dollars. part of evaluating any new sites will involve community engagement to better understand what the community wants. we also want to establish clear expectations for private providers using and curb such a site siting criteria and community outreach requirements so they can bring forward well-prepared projects that they will own and operate. and creating a permitting framework including a long term

permitting solution and operating terms that address driver access, pricing, maintenance licensing and potential revenue sharing. with that i'll turn it over to broderick paolo from sfm to to dive deeper into the findings of the feasibility study and the demonstration pilot. >> thanks, nicole. >> good afternoon supervisors. my name is broderick pollo and i'm a planner s.f. mta on the parking care management team. and i've had the pleasure of serving as the project manager for the pilot program. >> today i'm thrilled to be providing you with a high level overview of the feasibility study and providing a brief overview of the pilot. the study sponsored by president randleman explored whether it was feasible from an operational, financial and regulatory perspective to install, maintain and operate a public facing charging network at the curb. >> the study identifies the risks and opportunities of operating a curbside network and identified practical solutions and recommendations to help advance the network beyond the pilot phase. of course lessons learned from

the pilot were incorporated into the study. >> overall we found that the biggest challenges is navigating the complex permitting and regulatory process. additionally, we can expect hurdles with the electrical grid both in terms of readiness and overall capacity. >> these factors reinforce the need to site intentionally building not just individual chargers but a connected network. the good news is is that our thank you. >> the good news is that our analysis shows revenue generation is feasible for both the city and the vendors provided implementation is thoughtful and strategic. >> as you are well aware there are a suite of agencies that have the authority and jurisdiction over the public right of way adjacent private parcels and the energy grid. the cast of characters includes public works, s.f. mta, db ii, sfp c and pge. >> despite these complex conditions the city has

experience and a track record of working with private vendors in these complex spaces. examples of these partnerships include the bike share program, the car share program and the city's contractual relationship with vendors such as j.c. taco . one of the recommendations from this study is to develop a long term curbside ev permitting pathway. this effort must identify clear roles including a lead agency responsible for coordinating and implementing the legislative changes to support a permitting process with key approvals and a partnership model. >> the study conducted a citywide suitability analysis that found every district has a viable curb for ev charging. >> the consultant arab used several data layers including existing parking regulations, ev registrations, grid capacity, multiple unit density and equity indicators to help identify suitable locations. the map and analysis assumes that areas with metered parking

bikeways, daylighting zones and color curbs are incompatible with charging infrastructure. it will also be important to consider local block level conditions and community readiness as we look to site charging stations in the future . >> in june of 2024 we launched a pilot with the spirit of learn by doing to begin testing a variety of curbside charging models. we designed the program to be technology agnostic which gave the vendors the flexibility to bring in a variety of curbside charging products that includes chargers mounted to existing utility poles, pedestal chargers and an even a bring your own cord model like the one shown here which is san francisco's first station operated by its electric. >> now vendors who meet our program guidelines propose sites that work best for their technology. their proposals must account for accessibility, avoid transit or bike conflicts and consider a range of parking

configurations from parallel angled and perpendicular. >> once a site is approved the vendor takes on full responsibility to own install operate and maintain these chargers. to energize the chargers vendors have one of two options. they can either establish a new service directly with pge or p c or they can tap into excess panel capacity from a nearby property. for the demonstration pilot public works issued an emerging technology permit. the initial permit lasts for two years with the option of it being extended to ten. the emerging technology permit is available as a short term permitting mechanism to test out new innovations with the goal of informing the development of new permits that may be needed. we are now at the stage we need to establish a long term permitting solution for curbside charging. to scale programing. and finally a few other permits are needed to make this work. excavation permits from public works if the public if the project requires trenching

electrical permits from db ii, etc. to legislation to designate the curb or the exclusive use of ev charging and verification from the utility of new electrical services needed. >> the pilot is currently working to complete one demonstration site with each of our approved vendors. it's electric urban e.v. and volt post to date we've reviewed about 60 five sites from these vendors and have two sites in progress and one is operational. site selection is challenging as providers need to consider existing street furniture, vertical clearances and power connection. >> one of the biggest takeaways from the pilot is that vendors need clear up front requirements from the city to inform site selection. even with these guidelines, site selection often requires close collaboration as each site is unique. now as we plan for the future of curbside charging we can build on the following siting principles from the pilot.

first focus on demand placing chargers without actually be used. second avoid conflicts with existing or planned street uses like transit lanes or bikeways. third prioritize locations with a high density of renters and multi-unit buildings and avoid commercial corridors. finally consider underserved areas with limited charging and high vehicle reliance. right now we're working with urban v and volt post to finalize site selection and we expect those last two pilot sites to be operational within the next 6 to 9 months. next month urban tv will be seeking mta board approval for a potential site in the dogpatch. and volt post is currently working with sfp c and pge to assess two different potential sites once those sites are established. the city team will wrap up the pilot by ensuring vendors are maintaining their infrastructure monitoring pattern usages, conducting a community survey and making adjustments to improve performance as needed. of course these data driven

insights will directly inform the design of the future citywide program. >> to date we've been able to utilize 311 reporting data driver feedback and support from our parking control officers to begin implementing changes at our first site to foster higher utilization. and now i'll hand it over to shannon from it's electric to share their perspectives and lessons learned on the first site. i would like to note that it's electric will be speaking in its capacity as a current office of emerging technology committee reporting on its experience so far. >> thank you broderick and hello supervisors. my name is shannon and i am the director of public affairs for its electric. it's electric's first of a kind approach to curbside ev charging has enabled us to provide the first curbside chargers in the city of san francisco in 2025. as you've heard, the city identified grid access and readiness as a challenge in the deployment of public charging. this is a problem not isolated

to just san francisco. it is a leading issue cities across the country are facing in scaling ev charging infrastructure. this boils down to the complexity of coordination time and cost around connecting to the grid. it's electric identified this and in response created the first charging system that avoids this issue and allows public chargers to be powered instead by the extra capacity in buildings. the second issue we identified to solve was charger downtime caused by failure or vandalism of attached cables. and so we imported the european solution of a detachable cables . we send drivers a free lightweight cable to charge with that they keep and carry in their car. this also makes us fully interoperable no adapters needed from drivers as with other public charging solutions . but back to building power an incredible side effect is that this allows us to be the only community requested charging solution when we scale in a city we crowdsource site locations which we then share with our city partners for approval. >> building power also allows

us to have chargers in the ground fast in only two days after permits and approvals are granted. this is critical as low cost and high speed are the key drivers to scale. next on finance our model is one that is at no cost to the city taxpayers utility or the property owner. we pay our electricity use from that charger directly to the utility and with the revenue we earn we share 20% of it back to the building owner. >> this pilot was designed to have the selected vendors share data to iterate with speed and agility with the city. we were able to do just that in the first four weeks making two key changes to ensure the success of these stations. the first challenge was the spots were often blocked by gas powered vehicles or by evs that were parked but not plugged in to charge. the solution serviced was enforcement by 70 from driver reporting to 311. and next the spots were painted to visually underscore that these are reserved spots for ev charging only. the second issue is that the original pricing structure had drivers paying based on the

time they were plugged in rather than by kilowatt hour . >> based on driver feedback and in coordination with the city we made the switch in 24 hours. utilization has moved from 10% to almost 56% in just six months. to underscore how remarkable that says it took new york city's curbside pilot on a much larger scale of deployment over two years to reach the same level of utilization as san francisco did in just four months. the city sfm and mta, department of environment and supervisor randleman and his office deserve to be commended for it for this work. >> its electric is here to support san francisco's curbside charging goals and growth. in the six months we've been in the ground over 125 buildings have signed up to power a charger and receive revenue share. 100 drivers have signed up to use the active chargers with another 140 drivers waiting for us to expand. both active ev drivers and more importantly aspiring ev drivers who are waiting for infrastructure in order to make the switch. thank you so much for your time and i'll pass it back to you.

>> broderick. >> thank you shannon. as we work with the remaining providers to complete two more pilots, the city team is transitioning to focusing on developing a long term permitting process to support citywide curbside expansion. in the last two months we've worked across departments to identify agency roles for a citywide curbside planning. mta will be leading project development management and operations for a new citywide program led by mta's taxi access and mobility services team also known as thames. mta will lead on developing a long term permitting pathway, a revenue model and operational terms. >> public works will support all processes and permits for operation within the public right of way and provide input on site selection requirements . sfe will provide ev charging subject matter expertise to advise on policy development research outreach

and monitoring and evaluation practices. spc will provide utility expertise to help shape site screening and eligibility by combining operational expertise permitting authority utility planning and ev technical knowledge. we are working together to create a program stronger than any single department could have done alone. now as we move to the next phase of the program we'll use available prop l funding to support essential planning and establish a strong foundation for citywide expansion and key priority is creating a long term permit and streamlining inner agency processes to the extent possible so providers have a predicted, predictable, coordinated path for deploying curbside charging. we're also developing a consistent site selection framework to ensure locations are feasible, equitable and responsive to community needs. we're developing a mapping tool

providers can use to inform this site selection. in parallel we're exploring mechanisms to identify vendors capable of operating a reliable well maintained network that also supports a sustainable revenue approach. throughout this work we remain committed to ongoing engagement with communities and stakeholders to guide deployment and build public trust underpinned all of these priorities as a strong cross agency collaboration bringing together mta public works, sfe and cpc to create a scalable and resilient curbside charging program aligned with the city's long term mobility and climate goals. >> and lastly if any ev charging company would like more information on the city's long term permitting program which is currently under development, they should visit sfm ta's curbside website to sign up for our distribution list and mta will reach out to those companies once there is more information about the long term program.

that concludes our presentation and thank you very much. >> thank you. president mendelsohn thank you chairman gar and thank you for . thanks to everyone who's been involved in the feasibility study and the pilot. >> i do have some questions. >> so one relates to the scale and timing of the goal. so the feasibility study determined that we need 100 curbside chargers and i wonder if you could talk a little bit about that because it seems like a low number to me but you're also in setting the goal of having that done by 2030 which seems like a rather long time out to me. and so could you talk a little bit more about the hundred and a little bit more about the 2030? >> yeah, i can speak to that. so as we were developing our 2030 goals we wanted to just take into account what other charging projects are underway

or what we think might be realistic in the off streets space. >> as mentioned we were successful in working with mta to access funding of 2.3 million to help install 250 new level two chargers in off street city owned garages. >> and since we needed to develop a long term permitting strategy in order to scale curbside, we wanted to make sure that our goal was reasonable and determined. 100 to be a reasonable goal over this five year period so that in the next five years we could also collect data and if we're able to you know, go past that goal that will be excellent that will continue to help support our goals for charging and expansion as we move to 2040. but we wanted to make sure that our goal was realistic with what we could do based off of our current status transitioning from a pilot to a citywide program which requires

significant upfront work as we establish that long term permitting pathway. >> and i appreciate that. i do. i mean i just think there's and i'd be curious i mean i assume that these two chargers into both triangle are showing there's demand. >> you're nodding yes. yeah well it's showing extreme extremely good demand with 60% utilization thus far. >> but we have also recognized that, you know, curbside charging projects can be a little bit more complex based off of, you know, the the model and where the utility interconnection is. so we're still gathering data as we deploy the remaining two stations with our approved vendors urban ev and volt post. >> so we're still evaluating, you know, how we can scale this model further and that's why we focused on that goal of 100 chargers to help meet that near

home demand knowing that we will need to expand that goal as we set our eyes on 2040 with 100% electrification. >> you know and i recognize that there's many ways to meet our need for chargers to support people moving to electric vehicles. and it may be you know that curbside charging is not going to be a huge chunk of that effort. >> however, i'm it is it seems like potentially an elegant solution for people who live in multifamily buildings that don't have chargers and that and it has been sort of identified in city documents going back at least to 2019 if not prior to that as something that we wanted to explore. >> so i guess i just want to

while you know, expressing gratitude for the work you've done sort of also express urgency around moving more quickly to deploy more and trying to make that more of a priority. >> and i'm hoping that the administration and you know, i've had some conversations with lisa jean-baptiste. >> i'm hoping that the administration if if they believe in you believe that these curbside chargers are part of the ev solution that we should move more quickly than 100 by 2030 and maybe that's 100 by 2028? i don't know but it seems like we should move more quickly than we are moving. but then i want to get into a little bit about why things seem to be going rather slowly. so we have two that went out in april. none have been deployed since then. right. although we do apparently have a lot of interest coming. well, i don't know if we have a lot of interest.

can you talk more about why this is hard and what's taking so long? >> yes. so as brodrick noted, we've received over 65 applications and to date across our three approved curbside charging vendors. >> and something that is difficult is site selection. so we've been able to work closely with each approved vendor to provide them with key requirements. >> but it does get tricky as we're navigating this for the first time through the demonstration pilot. and each site is different. so what might work for one block doesn't necessarily work for the other. additionally, another added layer that can complicated is there's different technology types that we're currently experimenting with so for example one of our approved vendors is called volt post and their lamp post mounted chargers. so they're looking at lampposts and where those are located. so each site selection process

requires determining you know if there's the curb use is viable for curbside but we also need to take into account things like existing street furniture where utility interconnection point is and things like vertical clearance which complicate it and lead to a lengthier site selection process and assessment process. so we have some lessons learned over the last year but that also some of that information that informed that 2030 goal of 100 you know we want to be realistic with how fast we've been able to move to date. do you think you're close to having more moving out or. >> yes. we estimate that the next two sites will be available and within nine months we have big target to hopefully open the next two sites by climate

action month and week. >> so we're excited to move those forward. but that is you know, after a long process with both of the remaining vendors that have gone back to assess multiple sites for each of those vendors. so it hasn't been cut and dry for the site selection process . do you have thoughts about how to speed this up? because two a year feels inadequate or like this is like not if this is a project we should take on. we should be doing it more quickly. if it's a project we shouldn't take on, we should cut bait and have folks working on other things. >> so gee, do you have a sense of whether we're going to be able to move things along more quickly than two a year or what really is inhibiting that? >> yes, i agree we are moving too slowly as electric vehicle ombudsperson i want all of the charging infrastructure in the ground now but we do know that

this is a gap that we need to fill close to home charging solutions are going to be critical for our residents especially when public charging can oftentimes be less convenient and more expensive. >> i don't doubt that you share the urgency around it. what i'm not getting is the is this a gap we can close and what's the problem? i mean if i think this is a problem do you think it's a problem? how do we how do we get it done more expeditiously? >> like what's going to be the thing that makes that happen? establishing a long term permitting pathway so that site vendors can apply to specific site criteria set by the city and can apply for more than one permit moving forward. so as we transition to citywide planning we want to open up that permitting pathway so each vendor can apply for more than one site at once and we've received input from each of the

curbside vendors that they want to scale and do something like you know, 20 sites each. so by opening that pathway, that permitting pathway we're going to be allowing that permit pathway to move faster. and as we determine the final technology needs for the remaining two vendors, we'll have a good blueprint that we can follow and we can establish which technologies we can pursue as we open the citywide . >> maybe you can explain how that's going to help to me because i had understood that this emerging technologies permit was, you know, a great way of speeding things up and and that that was responsible for the relatively quick approval of the the two chargers we have. but it seems like it's kind of somehow gotten bogged bogged down and city permitting is not necessarily expeditious.

>> so how do we think the pathway the permitting pathway that is going to be created i guess under mta maybe this should be an mta problem or question? >> so so one of the i mean one of the recommendations in the feasibility study is expedite permitting and improve oversight and talks about the need to identify a lead agency. and i guess part of the work leading up to this hearing has been mta sort of perhaps grudgingly or perhaps happily but being willing to like take on the responsibility for this project because it has felt like nobody has wanted to be the lead on on ev curbside permitting. but maybe can you talk like what how do we make this an expeditious process that results in more than to have curbside charges chargers a year? >> hi, thank you. i'm katie and i'm the director of the taxes access and mobility services program

at the s.f. mta. >> how did you get stuck with us and we are excited and we are stepping in and stepping up and exciting thank you and of you know are strongly committed to the goal to the project and we're thankful that this is one part of the solution and nicole talked about that because we do have a lot of factors that are complicated and having a long term permitting process doesn't necessarily mean it is going to be faster than the permitting process. thankfully we're building on the great work and the lessons learned of the team and the collaboration. so we're not starting from zero but we do need to level set on expectations and say we are committed to the work, we're committed to going faster and we will look for all those opportunities to create a more efficient process.

>> but permitting in the city is complicated and the slide that brody laid out with the cast of characters with the agencies that need to issue permits that will remain and i don't know if that's a choice for us right. well there it is how our city is structured. so there's charter authority for various city agencies to issue permits within their purview. right? so that is established. mta is not going to issue a p u c permit or idbi permit. but what we are going to do is we're going to be the front door for the permitting process and we will work to create streamlined process on our side and create a process where we approve eligible vendors and then they will need to go get the the permits as applicable applicable as may be

needed. right. so it might be there's trenching involved and they're going to have to go to public works for that excavation permit. so what we're hoping to do is make it clear have a clear front door for interested vendors and be clear with upfront requirements. create a mapping tool which again we've we talked about as part of the presentation but it is a complicated process when you're putting something in the public right of way that requires you know, power and attachment to the grid. it's it is just a complicated endeavor. i get it. and yet somehow cities are managing to do this. >> yeah so we will and if there's a problem with if all over the world if it is a problem with our charter i mean we have all sorts of

conversations about charter reform happening over this year and we can go to the ballot you know if we if we need to go to the ballot with the curbside ballot measure, i can't imagine who's going to vote no on it. so if we need to carve out charter authority well we you know and i think that's a conversation i don't want to imply it's a problem but i want to imply there's expertise at various agencies. right? so mta has expertise with setting up permit programs with curbside managing the curb. >> public works has expertise with excavation permits, encroachment permits. dubai has that expertise with the power and making sure that piece of this is working as needed. so you know, again, i don't want to imply that there's a problem but i want in a state that there's different expertise involved with the various elements of this.

so we want to, you know, identify and work as a team and there is a great structure set up whereby mta public works there's you know, an existing inter agency collaboration happening which is really great. so we're hoping to build off of the relationships and understand where there is room for streamlining the permitting where there's room to potentially delegate authority for various aspects of the permitting and if it's delegated to the mta of course we need to make sure we have that in-house expertise so that we we don't say hey, we can do it all in not have that expertise needed. >> so it's it is a team effort across city agencies do you have a timeframe within that which that conversation about permitting is going to be. >> well it's already started which is nice.

we're not waiting for the pilot to end. we are, you know, kind of parallel play here and we're hoping to get something in place for 2026. the structure in place in the coming months. i don't have a specific date at this point but you know, we're certainly happy to come back and provide an update but we do expect to have that with in 2026. >> what would it mean for the pilot to end because it sounds like we have something like 65 applications and we're anticipating two more going out in the next year. >> yeah, that pilot seems like it could go on for a very long well i think that's wrapping up so as those two additional sites are put in the ground then and what the team can correct me if i'm wrong that there we have selected that maximum number of participants three and once we finalize those sites and get those into the ground that is it for the pilot which is so for new participants. >> so the pilot is anticipating a total of how many chargers on

the on the street it's electric will have has there are two installed currently urban ev is proposing five sites in the dogpatch and volt post is proposing two sites or two chargers either in the sunset or treasure island so the pilot would be a total maximum of nine and then it sort of at some point between now and then sort of a different permitting process takes over. that's correct. okay. steam will take over. oh, okay. it looks like some of my colleagues have questions and comments. >> hey, thank you, president supervisor mahmood, you can ask some more questions to president mandell mean about the charter reform process. is it your understanding then that to create let me say a one stop shop for this permit we do need charter reform and you have a sense of which parts of the charter we need to change to make that possible.

>> i'd have to take a look at that that is i'm not sure but so i guess more to come on that i don't have a specific you know ready ready to go answer their cut it is there one concrete non charter related administrative change that you can make today that if you could do that today, which would you be to actually move this further along? >> well, there is something that is under discussion and that is a delegation of authority from public works to the mta on the encroachment permitting. so we are exploring that and that is an active conversation and so you know we can report back on that but we're not ready we don't have an outcome from that yet. >> of course we have to work through the city attorney and make sure that one it's allowable by what mechanism and then again making sure if it's delegated to mta that we

have the in-house skills to do that to to issue those permits. >> and so thank you. >> thank you. supervisor supervisor chen thank you, chair. >> you know i haven't seen a lot of public charges in district 11 so i think this is the equity questions to show 11 we use all modes of transportation and i know that in my district we do have some public parking space for example mission and norton street sites. so i just want to ask what is the city doing in selecting new sites to expand public facilities? well, you want to jump in. >> yes. so the city is assessing all of our city owned public parking garages in lots to determine power capacity and applying for funding to bring ev chargers into those lots that are managed by mta.

in addition, through my role as ev ombudsperson i am in a support role for any ev service provider that's trying to bring charging to san francisco to help them assess sites, troubleshoot permitting and talk to supervisors like you to see what demand is like in your district. so i'm excited to share. you know there has been some interest in bringing chargers to district 11 through ayana who's who's contemplating a large fast charging hub. but we want to also consider things like curbside or bringing charging to districts that don't have any through outside funding through state and federal funds. so our department has been successful in in doing that in bayview hunters point most recently this year and continue to apply to fund for funds so that if we're not seeing the market bringing funding to

underserved areas the city can subsidize those chargers. >> thank you for that and yes, district 11 can use more and other questions. it's personally i also have experiences in especially using chargers that is broke down so i want to also hear from you like what the protocol and procedures to ensure that existing stations which in my district is also very limited and you know that the station the existing ones are reliable and operation well yes the state has strong reliability standards for chargers and we followed suit. so for any chargers that are supported by funding through the city or kind of sponsored by the city, we're instituting the same requirements for the curbside program as part of the current emerging technology permit. we have reliability requirements and during the

first initial two year term we'll evaluate each site, provide feedback so they can make any adjustments as needed and at the end of that term we can evaluate and provide feedback on their status. so if they are not meeting our core requirements we will cancel their permit and have them pull out that charging infrastructure themselves. but of course we want to get ahead of it so we keep an open line of communication with any vendors that we work with and then also for charging projects that we're not a part of as a city. you know if folks come to me and have complaints about chargers being down or inoperable so i'm reaching out to those ev charging providers to find solutions as i think what's worse than not having charging in the ground is charging that's not working. so we're also working with other providers to get their equipment online and find out what's going on with those chargers that are always down. thank you so i have lots of

questions sorry supervisor or i'm confused a little bit by the presentation that ms. delaney made so uh as to the pilot program, what is exactly the relationship with a building owner? i didn't understand that. >> sure. so one of the reasons why it's been so difficult for legacy ev charging companies to deploy at the curb is because they're connecting directly to the utility and so that site selection process is determined by the interconnection process which can take up to 18 months. >> why the building i don't understand if this is a public curb, why the building has anything to do with it. >> well because they have power at the correct voltage and they have spare capacity in that building. so essentially we're just mimicking what happens if you live in the suburbs and you have a driveway or garage and you install your own at

home charger your own level two charger it's the same amount of power that a dishwasher requires. so we pull that power. >> yeah but that's assuming the curb belongs to the building and it does not the curb belongs to the public so yeah, there's actually there's two different processes that we're going into. there's the contract with the building to pull their power and then we're going through all of the processes with the environment department and sfm mta to pull the appropriate permits so the building doesn't own that curb that curb it's privately powered but it's a publicly accessible spot and who's paying for occupying that spot while that car is charging? so all of these parking spots are public parking. >> so you're saying it's free? well, you pay for the charging service but you're not paying for the parking area. okay. that clears it up. thank you. okay. so after all that presentation thank you so much. i am still like at a loss of

who's in charge for like propelling this thing forward so in swedish that word on buds person means go between i still i'm not sure who you're going between and who is leading the charge on this the s.f. mta is leading the charge. we are the lead agency. >> we will be the front door for the new permitting process and we will we are creating what that process will look like but it is intended to be a welcoming open front door for vendors so we will assess eligibility to participate in that permitting program and once and maybe we will issue the encroachment person permit depending on how our conversations go. but so empty is the front door and the other permits will

still be required depending on how the charger will be set up. and so if your company a and you make it through the welcoming front door with the clear expectations and the site mapping tool and we determine you are eligible all then you are eligible to go get the next permit on the list to complete the project and then once you've done that and you've gotten your permits you come back to the mta for that final check, right? so we're again as the lead agency we're going to check that vendor a has successfully received all of the permits needed and then we'll issue the final permit to operate. >> okay. i understand about the operationalizing of the permit processing. okay. so my question though is if if it's the mta that's going to be in charge, what is your goal

for this program? >> what are the goals? our goal will be to establish those 100 charging locations ends at the curbside by 2030. so that's my understanding of that is our goal and we're our goal is to then streamline in the process and have a clear, understandable, legible process for interested vendors. >> so in that i do feel some kind of way about that president because to me the goal should be much broader than that so it shouldn't be just issue 100 permits. so you know i was here during the pandemic when we rolled out the parklets you know that the shared spaces program and there was a very similar thing, you know to i mean we have to do it very quickly because we were in a pandemic but there were multiple goals. it wasn't just about issuing the permits. right? again, it there forgive me it just seems to me that there's multiple multiple goals here

too and perhaps some goals that you are not even taking into account because you're the mta and not necessarily the puc or the department of the environment aside from that our climate action goals and getting people to move towards if there's equity goals about who has access to these things that may or may not line up with the infrastructure that's already there. there are goals around you know, the use of these things that commercial spaces versus residential for example. there's the goal also of generating revenue. we do have vendors that right now use privately land for charging and they're making money off of that and we are giving away the curb for free. >> so you know, it seems to me that you know, the puc also has a goal of provide public power. they do so for our public buildings. i'm not sure why we wouldn't, you know, have them do it here

for this public you know, although privatize for a tiny thing you know, activity, it just seems to me that there are multiple goals and that, you know, we are looking at it in a very small way when we should be looking at it bigger. but that is just a comment, not a question. i do have one more question and that is who is making the decisions for site selection process? >> so aside from the map that you talked about i know again with experi of the shared spaces we talked about ada, we talked about fire accessibility like all of those things in addition to equity and you know what was needed. so who's making the site selection for the next 100? yeah, i will just say fair point and if i zoomed in too closely on the goal, i

appreciate your point and to reorient us to the larger picture and there are those larger broader goals so i agree and yes and if there's a possessory interest about the use of the curb then that's a conversation with tax and we're happy to have that conversation so oh sorry. treasurer tax collectors office the treasurer's office why is that you you guys part you pay for it like you charge for parking on commercial corridors. >> why would you give this away for free if there if there's not a meter on the spot i think you're talking about is the spot metered right. >> we're assuming that everything that's not metered is free, right? >> that's an assumption that you're making. right. but so we're trying to maintain it. >> the mta still has a responsibility to keep up that curb, to maintain it, to pave it to paint it. that's right. >> agreed. okay. so all of those all of that needs to be considered in and i guess i was just trying to

address the point if there is a private company using the public right of way to make money then that is there is a mechanism under the possessory interest under the treasurer's office to charge for that. so i just wanted to say we we are aware of that and will make sure that that's considered and the site selection is we are working to build out an interactive mapping tool but it will include those aspects that you mentioned and we have a very robust accessibility requirement that's built in and you know there's community readiness which is part of that conversation. >> so that is something that is under development. okay. >> thank you. it's kind of public comment. thank you. land use and transportation will now hear public comment related to agenda item number eight if you have public comment for this hearing please come forward to the lectern at

this time. madam chair to preserve no speakers for agenda item number eight okay. >> public comment is now closed . >> mr. president, what would you like us to do? >> well again thank thank you committee members for taking a little bit of time this afternoon for this conversation. i oh i feel frustrated. >> i'm happy that we have two more chargers on the ground now than we did two years ago. i also feel like this is a this is one of those conversations that seemingly goes on forever in san francisco and i think we were hoping that the feasibility study would sort of like set us up to really address kind of the things that we are now talking about addressing and move, you know, quickly to dramatically expand out the the network of curbside chargers and it feels like

we're setting ourselves up for yet another rather long conversation where we spend where we have a lot of people in government talking to each other about how to make something happen without showing the results for it that i think we all believe we want to see so i've had some conversations with as i said at least to time baptist about it. i think i'll have some more. i'm hoping that the resources and urgency around this will come not just from the board of supervisors but from the administration as well. i do think we can do more than two curbside chargers a year and i do think that the goal should be to get this, you know, rolled out sooner than 2030 and and thanks again to the mta for taking this on. some of the supervisors on this committee i believe are to be part of the charter conversation actually probably all the supervisors on the board are going to be part of the charger charter conversation and and so you

know, to the extent that this requires charter changes, we want to know we want to know if this requires admin code changes. we want to be partners in helping move things along but we also want to deliver quickly and not be using our you know, our staff time and resources on projects that don't and with good results. so i would like to have this hearing continued to the call the chair and i'd like to bring us back and say three months and i hope some of the thinking at mta around permitting will have moved forward and maybe we'll be able to hear a little bit more about progress on the pilots. but you know, i think this is sort of a check in and and i'm hoping we'll have more good news in the spring. okay. i don't think i close public comment today. public comment is now closed.

i would first want to say thank you, president edelman for this stick to itiveness because you've been talking about for as long as i've known you. >> so i'm really glad and yeah, i hope that we can make some progress on things that it makes sense. i mean especially for my district which is a little more suburban where we could really use this for sure that would be really great. okay so i would like to make a motion that we continue this item to the call of the chair a motion offered by the chair this hearing be continued to the call the chair vice chair chen chen i'm mohamad mahmood i chair melgar i malka i mean i'm sure there are three eyes okay that motion passes. >> thank you. thank you. >> let's go to item number nine please. agenda item number nine is a motion approving final map number ten 857 for a 20 commercial unit condominium project located at 1301 to 1341 evans avenue being a

subdivision of assessor's parcel block number 5237 lot number zero 37 and adopting findings pursuant to the general plan in the higher priority eight priority policies and planning code section one a 1.1 this motion is on today's agenda as a potential committee report it may be sent for consideration by the board at their meeting tomorrow december 9th, 2025. >> okay. thank you. we have a presenter here from the surveyor's office, mr. elias french. hi. welcome. thank you. nice to meet you all. i'm here on behalf of public works department of the city in subdivisions and mapping office of the city and county surveyor. i'm the city and county surveyor having started fairly recently. thank you for inviting me this

map here before us is a 20 unit commercial condominium subdivision map. it was received by our office in 2021 duly circulated to city agencies and they responded with their feedback and comments which are very minimal. the applicant completed the required conditions. i believe the only condition required of this commercial condominium subdivision is a conversion of existing commercial space. to be clear was to get a building inspection which they did and perform any required building code update work and then they proceeded to final mapping. so we issued tentative approval, they completed the required conditions and then submitted the final map to our office.

so we reviewed all of that approve the final map and i signed it and then we forwarded along to board of supervisors as is customary for all subdivisions of five lots or units or more. that's a summary of the project that is 1301 evans street. it's an existing two story 20 unit commercial building on evans street and they're converting the existing units into commercial condominiums. it sounds good. thank you so much. you're welcome, sir. french mr. clerk, i don't see anyone on the roster with comments. why don't we go to public comment on this item? >> land use and transportation will now hear public comment related to agenda item number nine does anyone have public comment for agenda item nine? madam chair appears in those speakers. okay. >> public comment is now closed mr. clerk i would like to make

a motion to send this item out of committee with a positive recommendation as a committee report a motion by the chair that this motion be recommended as a committee report. vice chair chin chin i member mahmood mahmood i chair melgar i malka. madam chair, there are three eyes that motion passes. >> thank you mr. clerk do we have any other items on our agenda? >> there is no further business. we are adjourned. >> thank you

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>> the two largest bridges in the road, symbolizing pioneer and courage in the conquest of space and time. between these two great bridges, in historic san francisco bay, here's tribute to the achievements of our time. he's a dream come true, golden gate international exposition on manmade treasure island. >> the 402 acre artificial island was build by engineers from 1936 to 1937 on the neighboring buena island. 300,000 tons of rock was used to build a seawall around an existing sand ball then followed by filling the interior with dredge material from the bay which was consistent of modern sand. the federal government paid for construction ask three permanent buildings which would

serve as a potential future airport. treasure island was constructed at the same time as the bay bridge and it was a project of works progress administration to construct this island, which was initially used to host the golden gate international exposition. >> carnival gone big. it was busy. >> it was going to become an airport after the exposition but it was turned over to the navy and turned over to a military base for the next 50 years. >> 1941, the united states army moved to treasure island as america prepared for world war ii. the island was a major training and education center with 4.5 million personnel shipped overseas from triangle. after the war ended in 1945, treasure island was slalthed to be an airport -- slated to be an airport but aviation changed and

the clipper were no longer in regular service, and the island was never developed as an airport. the navy continued their presence on treasure island. during the cold war years, the island was a myth training center and for military efforts throughout the pacific and asia. personnel trained on and shipped from treasure island and supported military activities in korea, vietnam and the persian gulf. >> the base was listed for closure by the navy in 1993 and the city began a process in 1994 under the redevelopment agency, forming a citizens reuse committee to look at potentially plans for the island, island's future. after the base closed in 1997, the treasure island development authority was created to develop and implement a reuse plan. >> the navy has completed their environmental cleanup in that area and last week, the

california department of public health issued a radiology unrestricted recommendation for that portion of side 12. it's a big milestone for the project. >> the treasure island development facility was setup to implement the master plan that was adopted by the board of supervisors in 2011. >> given the importance of housing in the city, both the affordable component and the market rate housing, we felt that it was important to review what the housing plan is at treasure island. >> the development facility and (indiscernible) that oversees the implementation of the master plan to make sure that the master plan, which was adopted by the board of supervisors and adopted by the city and after

meeting, that's plan that the city approved. the members of the board was appointed by the mayor and the board of supervisors. [multiple voices] >> the (indiscernible) is very detailed plan. looking at the ecological aspects of the island, looking at the geotechnical aspects of the island, but also making sure that there is an ongoing of development that's in keeping with what the original plan was, which is that we have up to 8,000 rooms of housing and there's retail and hotels. but also that there is open space that's created so it's an overall plan that guides the whole development of treasure island and the buena island. >> materials used during the construction of treasure island severely compromises the integrity to build structures.

in today's geotechnical engineers standing, treasure island soil is being readdressed for soil stabilization for future development. a mechanical stabilization process is being used to consolidate the liquid fashion of the mud and sandy soil. >> because treasure island is a manmade island, we have to do a significant amount of soil improvement before we can build new infrastructure and new buildings on the island. in the foreground, you see here, it's a process called surcharging we we import additional topsoil to simulate the dead weight of the future buildings to be constructed at that site. so this is causing bay mud that underlies island to consolidate over time and we can monitor that and as that consolidation primarily consolidation is complete, then this soil will be removed to the intended finished floor elevation of the new structures.

♪ [ music ] ♪ ♪ >> in the 1989 loma earthquake, the ground level of this island dropped by four inches. pretty much uniform across the island. loose sand material used to build the island, whether it gets hit by a seismic forces, the sand moves and consolidated. >> one of the processes to further stabilize the loose granular ground, a dynamic rate is used to densify the soil by high frequency mechanical vibrations. >> the rig in the background has four h-piles that goes down through the upper 50 feet of sandy material and as they vibrate, they vibrate causing that san material to consolidate and settle so as we do that process, we observe about 18 inches in settlement so the ground level around that equipment will drop by 18

inches, so this causes that same type of event to happen through mechanical means rather than through a seismic event. >> the dynamic vibrant compaction rate vibrates the soil every four square meters and moved along to the next section. to further assure stability, tamping is followed around the site, compassion takes approximately three to four months to complete 12 acres. once the compassion and tapping is done, it's settled ask using laser alignments to assure a level service to build on. >> i think that every city when they have the opportunity to do something that is as large as treasure island because treasure island is five hundred acres and it depends on their needs at that time and in 2011 to now,

the most important are thing for the city is housing. there's two aspects to that master plan. one, was the new district for san francisco. 8,000 units of housing, which is all levels of stability. the other (indiscernible) is 300 acres of open space and parks. and actually, it's the largest addition to the park system in san francisco since (indiscernible) 300 acres and this is a tremendous gift to the public, both the housing, which we desperately need in san francisco as well as an open space and park system which really is going to be worm class and it will attract people in san francisco but attract people locally as well as

internationally. >> cmg architecture was brought to the project once they award the agreement between the city of san francisco and the united states navy. cmg has earned national recognition and numerous awards for merits and design, social impact and environmental stewardship. >> we were a part of the project in the beginning when the developer initially was awarded the exclusive negotiation agreement or the ena with the city and they partnered with the planning and architecture group and we joined that team to work with the developer around the city and community to come up with a plan for treasure island. >> so there's quite a lot of open space in the master plan and there's a couple of reasons for that that's pragmatic. one is that the amount of area that could be converted for private use on treasure island was very limited, actually it wasn't allowed at all because treasure island was previously public open waters and protected by the

tidal and trust act to be redevelop for public use. but there was a land swap that was allowed and approved by the governor of california, governor schwarzenegger to be put on a public trust for a one to one swap to be taken out of the trust to be developed for private use such as residential and that amount of land was 89 acres which leaves a bunch more space that can't have housing on it and the question was, what to do with all of that space? there could be other public uses that allowed such as conference centers or museums or universities or things of that nature but what made the most sense for this location was to have more parks in a really robust parks and open space plan and that's what led us to the plan we have now. >> planting strategies for treasure island and buena island are to maximize habitat value in

the park areas wherever appropriate and where we can to create comfortable at the pedestrian scale. there are these diagonal lines that go across the plan that you'll see. those are wind row trees like you see in agricultural landscapes where they are tall tree that's buffer the winds to create a more calm areas down at the pedestrian scale. so of course, we do have some areas where we have play fields and surfaces where kids need to run around on and those will be either lawns or like you see in norm at sports field. >> related to where the housing is on the island and its convenience to the walk to the transit hub, i mentioned we're trying to create high-quality pedestrian -- and the innovations of treasure island is called the shared public way and it's a road that runs down the middle of the neighborhoods. it's a curbless street, cars are allowed to drive on it but pedestrian can walk down the

middle of the street and the cars are to yield the right-of-way for pedestrian and it's intended for streets where there's a low traffic volumes and the traffic speeds are low so while car was allowed, there's not a lot of reasons for cars to go on that street but it's to create a social street that's much more pedestrian-friendly and prioritizes pedestrians and bikes. one of the interesting things is working with all architects that have been designing buildings in the first phase to encourage them, to create architecture that welcomes people to sit on it. it's wlm like sticking its toe out and asking someone to sit on its toe so buildings integrate public seating and places for people to hang out at their base, which is really, the opposite of what you see often times in this city where there's defensive architecture that's trying to keep people off it. this is architecture that's trying to invite people to come and inhabit it at its base. >> incorporated in the landscape

architect of treasure island are wetlands, which are designed to factor in coastal erosion control from incoming sea level rise and natural animal habitation and stormwater runoff treatment. >> there's different kinds ever wetlands planned for treasure island and they have different purposes. they are stormwater wetlands that's treating the runoff from the island and filtering that water before it's released to the bay to improve the water quality in the bay and the ocean and the first phase of the large wetland infrastructure is built on buena island to treat the storm water from buena island. we might see that when we go out there. there are tidal wetlands plan for the northern side of the island where the sea level rise adaptation and flood protect for future sea level rise is held back away from the edge of the island to allow sea level rise to come onto the island to create future tidal wetland which is helpful for the bay in the future as we see sea

level wise flood out existing wetlands and there are some natural vernal pool in the wetland that's captured rainwater and capturing certain habitat so there's three purposes of the wetland primarily around water filtration and habitat creation. >> consumable sustainability was incorporated in the redesigning of treasure island. innovative urban farming is included in the plans to foster economic viability, conservation of water, and to promote ecological sustainability. >> the urban farm is 20 island. and it's a commercial farm to produce food. it's not community where the volunteers and neighbors grow their own, it's commercially run to maximize the food production and that food will be distributed on the island. and interestingly, the urban farm is tied into the on island wastewater treatment plan

which creates recycle use for water on the island so water used to grow the island will be a sustainable force and we're trying to close the loop of water, food, and create a new model for sustainability. >> part of the design for sustainable landscape was incorporate natural form water garden filtering systems, the first of three natural stormwater gardens is here on buena island. and a total of ten will be on treasure island. water from storms, street runoffs from neighborhoods has the possibility to collect toxic materials as it makes its way back into the surrounding bay. this garden has been a model for future, natural filtering systems through out the bay area. >> whenever a storm comes through, all of the water, you know, it lands on the streets, it lands on the top of the buildings, and at times it often collects a lot of heavy metals

and greases and it needs to be cleaned and before sent back into the back. it goes into the pipes and stormwater drainage and put into our stormwater basin and then all of the plants and soil you're seeing in there, they are acting as a filter for all those oils and heavy metals and greases and all things that's coming off the roadways, coming off the development and so it's treated here in the storm water basin and then it's sent out into the bay as a clearer product and cleaner water which increases our water quality here and throughout the bay area. so the structure in the center of each basin is what we call the for bay. that's the point at which the stormwater exits out of the storm drainage system and into the stormwater basin itself. so the for bay is shaped as almost a gate to kind of push all water out through the pipes, all of those rocks

help to disburse it before it's sent into the stormwater basin itself. the storm water basin was designed to fill up to the height of the berm of the side you're seeing here. so this is juncus and these are well-known fresh water grasses found in any place around the bay area that you find standing water or in a drainage channel, you're going to find a lot of these junket species. this is a leave a lifter in the bio treatment. it soaks up a lot of water, to soak up the contaminants and heavy metals, so it's kind of our backbone species. this one is called douglas siana and the common name is mug war. it's a beautiful plant but doing the heavy lift and pulling, those contaminants out of the storm water and pulling oil to help treat the water before its sent back into the system and back into the bay. this plant is

known as salvia or hummingbird sage. it has a lot of habitat value in that it's a strong pollinator plant. obviously, you can see the pink and purple flowers which come up in the springtime and attracts a lot of hummingbirds, a lot of bees which help to pollinate the other species within the garden and throughout the rest of the island and all of those native plants. all of these plants are designed to be able to take a heavily inundation of water over a several day per like standing water for a long time. all of the plants can withstand that and honestly, thrive in that condition. so all of these were selected based on the ecological and habitat value but also their treatment and functional value for stormwater. >> this is super tiny. >> it's very much a big part of our design and master plan for the development of the island. it was a navy base and a lot of

navy housing on this island specifically for around 80 years and during that time, a lot of innovative species were introduced on the island, eucalyptus, a lot of different european and algerians plants were on the island. we wanted to bring in the native eye college here on the island before the navy started to redevelop it and introduce some of those invasive species so the species you're seeing in this stormwater garden in the basin and the upland area was a part of those types of ecology s that's trying to be returned to this side of the island but different other spaces through out the islands development. so whenever we started this process, we identified a number of species of native plants that seem applicable to the ecology that

we're trying to grow. there's 45 species, so a -- there's 15 species so they are hard to find in the nursery trade so we needed to grow it ourselves to achieve the biodiversity that's in the design here. as a part that have process, we brought on a nonprofit group called ledge, l-e-g- which is literacy for environmental justice. they grew those plants and put together the plant palates you see. >> most of landscape was inundated with invasive plant species eradicating species and having the plan on buena island and treasure island. literacy for environmental justice, a community volunteer educational program involved with restoring local habitats and preserving

san francisco's unique bio tie varsity, teamed up with the redevelopment group to grow the 50,000 native plants to -- to repopulate treasure island. >> the city of san francisco set up meetings between leg and they came in with high expertise and urban design, and architecture, and green infrastructure, but they really hadn't worked with flytive plants -- worked with native plants at scale and they were also kind of scratching their heads, like how are we going to grow 50,000 native plants from remnant native plant populations. it was a unique partnership of figuring out what plants can grow, what plants will function in stormwater gardens. not all native plants are ascetically pleasing to landscape architect, so we kind of worked around what plants are going to be pleasant for people,

what plants are going to provide habitat, what plants are going to actually be able to sequester carbon, deal with erosion, preserve the island biodiversity as well as be able to manage all of these stormwater treatment on the island. >> there's about 33 naturally occurring native plant species that survived the last one hundred years on yorba buena island. we were able to go in and get the seed and salvage plants in some cases, some of the development work that occurred was actually going to destroy native plant habitat and we went in before the bulldozers and before the roads were build and the new water tanks were installed and dig them up, divide them, hold them, of the 50,000 plants we grew 40,000 of them in-house and the other ten,

we had to rely on our partners to do it. with the 50,000 plants we did, we did 100 species and 95 of them are from the county of san francisco. about the other five are from the state of california. but the other 95 species really are the native plants that have been here for thousands of years. we used collection sites such as angel island, the presidio had genetics for the projects in san francisco. we used remnant plant habitats at hunters point and we used a lot of genetics from san bruno mountain. just to collect and process all of the genetics was a two-year process. and then it was about a two or three year process to grow all the species. >> this is the infamous -- it's

a low, growing sprawling native herb and it's in the mint family and i'm rubbing my hands on this and it's extremely aromatic. it feels like a flush of peppermint just came across my face. it's edible. you can make tea out of it. it's a great digestive plant for settling your stomach. it has been cool to introduce yerba buena to yerba buena. this plant is called dutchman's pipe. when in bloom, the flower looks like a dutchman's pipe. and another thing that's unique about this plant is, it's the whole specific plant for the pipeline swallow tail butterfly. so some

butterflies are able to adapt to other species and can use larva and food from different species. in the county of san francisco, there's only about three or four healthy populations of this plant. these particular plants were going to be destroyed because of the green infrastructure project needed to put pipes in and needed to demolish all water tanks and build new water tanks for the island, so we were able to go in, dig them up, cultivate them, extrapolate dozens of plants into hund hundreds of plants and restore it through the restoration process. one day one of my nursery managers was down here and she found the pipeline butterfly have flown over from yerba buena island and came to

our nursery on treasure island and was breeding on this plant. and successfully did its life cycle inside of our nursery. so, it? how that butterfly knows it's out there and find it, this is one of those unique things that we can't explain why butterflies can find this species but if we grow it and put it in the right location, they will return. so the plants we're looking at here is faranosa known as just dedlia or live forever. the construction is it work happen nothing that area, it's likely to be destroyed. a unique thing about this plant and the unique succulents we have in california and the live forever plant can live to be 150 years old. recently, the state of california just did special legislation to protect this

plant. i think in its intact population on the island, there's less than 50 of them, so to be able to grow several hundred of them and have them be a part of the plant palate of the stormwater gardens that was installed recently is an increase of biodiversity and a step forward towards protecting the natural legacy of the island. >> i moved to treasure island in 1999. i believe i was one of the first residents on the island. i have seen how the island has been destroyed and reconstruct since its beginning to restore the island to its native form is extremely important to me because that will help all the animals come back to the island and make this place even a better place to live.

>> i want to be here because these are people i know, so that was my first thing is just, like, i wanted to come here to help out and be with (indiscernible) and to actually put my hands in dirt. i feel like we as people don't work in army -- we don't see the benefits of plants, like, but i just learned about a plant that if you rub it enough, it turns into soap. that's cool. and we need those things. we need to know about those things. >> one really unique thing about this project is the scale. to use 50,000 native plants over 7 acres is a scale we have never seen. it really is trailblazing when we think about the 350 or 400 acres of open space that is planned for treasure island, it sets the stage for what is possible. there's a way to use

nature-based solutions at scale to meet the needs of climate change, sea level rise, the crisis of local extinction and create natural environment. the first phase of the project sets a stage for what is possible and i just feel really blessed to have been a part of it. >> one of the main focus on triangle is keeping vehicle traffic to a minimum. for residents and visitors, public transportation is highly encouraged and will be the center point of keeping the island pedestrian-friendly, retaining an open space sent and providing an eco system that reducing carbon emission >> we need the transit to be successful because if we had 8,000 homes here and everybody was trying to use their car to access the bay bridge every

month, it will overwhelm the system. new on and off-ramp are being constructed but all over the focus of the development is to be very transit oriented. triangle itself is very flat and very bikeable and walkable as a result and so there's a focus on using both bus and ferry service to get from the island to san francisco in the east bay. there will be a number of transit demand management tools that will be employed of the two new ramps to and from the -- to the island and allowing a limited number of cars to access the bridge and there will be a management toll to encourage the use of transit. >> all the market rate housing on the island, the price for residential unit whether that's a rental apartment or a for sale condo, the price of the unit is decoupled from the price of the parking spot. so people can buy a condominium without paying for

a parking spot. they choose to have a parking spot, they would pay an additional price. market rate residents are required to purchase take transit pass each month through their hoa fees or through their rent so the residents will begin the decision of driving or taking transit with a transit pass in hand each month. that transit pass will function as a muni fast pass allowing people to take muni and transfer within the muni network and function as an ac transit allowing people to take ac transit to the east bay and transfer within the ac transit system and it will also provide unlimited access to the treasure island ferry. >> treasure island is going to take decades to be fully build out. it's going to take some time for it to reach the

envelope that was passed by the board of supervisors and maybe there will be changes to it as well. we don't know what is going to happen in 50 years but i'm confident by the fact that the plan that was adopted was fully, fully thinking even for its time and the building the island to a way it's sustainable, it addresses sea level rise, but also gives the public the open space and parts that are so necessary to fill treasure island. there's economic, certainly, challenges and whether we're going to be able to build out all of what was desired in the master plan, it will -- time will tell, but i think that the last ten years, we've been coming to this point.

we are seeing incredible progress and the infrastructure is being finished by the island. market rate housing is being finished. affordable housing is being finished. and so, we feel within the next five years, substantial part of what we had envisioned is going to come to fruition.

. well, old school cafe is a fully youth run supper club that are coming from situations of incarceration, foster care, other challenging life circumstance. >> this and basically this whole place is run by the young people you would walk in and a night and you would see the youth would be the host, the servers, the chefs, the entertainment set, the buzzers, the dishwashers, learning management, marketing the whole place is a learning opportunity and not just learning but actual employment. >> i know a lot of people may not 25 years it's okay but let's try and be mindful of that. it's a lot of back in direction in the year round i was a correction officer where you for the probation department right out of college a lot of the young people would serve

their confinement time and then they would be really hopeful to like turn their lives around and we put them right back in the same exact environment and i just felt like they were set up to fail so so often we would have youth that would call that whether it was juvenile hall or a boot camp where i worked and say i want to come back because i feel safer there. i feel like somebody cares about me. >> and it was really hearing the young people stories that were incarcerated that and just kind of got to my heart and motivated me to find the solution. >> this is why i've has a long standing relationship with our school cafe theresa goins an amazing woman. i remember when she came to our office the first day i was her program officer before i was an executive director and she came to me and she was like serious. i have no idea what i'm doing. this is my first time having a grant with the city. i don't know what i need to do. can you help me? and i was like yes. like all the logistics were a

little bit like oh my gosh cherise would just sit down with me and walk me through it and help me breathe and she just believed in me and believed in the work i was doing and i was like you know what i bought and sold. i will help you in any and every way possible. and that was the start of over ten years of our relationship with old school cafe a typical day that old school basically consists of family meals so the chefs or the back of house will cook a meal for everyone to eat around 430 before shift. then we'd have preset where our bosses go over things that we should watch out for and any shout outs to give out to encourage everyone who is working here next you go to your position so today i'm busser so what i would do is i'd polish the silverware and do more laps along with filling up water when people start coming in and just being an all around helper.

>> my life before old school cafe was a little rough. i was one of those covid era kids right in eighth grade i went through like first couple of years of high school mine fell behind because of a lot of contamination. schools kind of gave up on school the with the life skills and coaching that happens here i finally pushed through and graduated last year. i've been told that i don't talk much i don't like i don't like socializing a lot but me being here i learned a lot of things here. life socializing is something that's been more consistent in my life now i like to open up more which is what i never really did coming from where we come from this environment of like especially in san francisco and the bay area in general can be very grimy but it's also very beautiful area to grow up in and to let me know i love where i come from and i love the people that come from where i come from and i really care about wellbeing of my area, my community. so i really just push the agenda to stay positive.

no i've got a tattooed all these positive energy always creates elevation so if you're putting out positivity has no choice but to come back to me tenfold, you know i just have something to look forward to or work towards it just stay positive to be able to serve and see everyone that comes in and represent old school capitals it feels great. it's an amazing organization and i'm happy that i'm able to help out and everything. it's wonderful. people come in here like i said to the program just this year and it's really home because of the people here that surround us. the manager is our coach is everybody. it's pure love and that's why this place works so well. >> so with all the nonprofits that we fund, the first process for them is to apply to our rfp which is our request for proposals if they're selected to be one of the agencies that we fund we pour into them this like we want them to pour into community. we provide technical assistance

and professional development free of charge to our agencies because our end goal too is to make sure that they're able to provide the highest quality services to children youth and their families. so we're going to do our due diligence to make sure they have access to the resources and information they need in order to be that a dream that was in my heart and head is like it's really here. it's happening live. first few times that i would walk into old school the youth was taking ownership where they knew what to do to set the dining room that they knew what to do to like prep the food and and to walk in with some gas and it's all happening like the dining room set up. the music is playing, food is coming out and i'm like oh it's happening like it's not just a dream. the young people are literally running this like classy jazz restaurant and going holy cow it can work with kids because

when you have a vision you hope it will work. >> you can see it so clearly in your head but when that actually comes to fruition that's really magical

welcome to sfgovtv in person i am jeremiah estep. your host today. and we are here at the united players clubhouse. and we are celebrating their 30th year anniversary of serving the community, specifically the south of market here in san francisco. and united players is a san francisco based youth development and violence prevention organization and i'm very happy to be here to talk to rudy and the rest of his staff. so let's introduce ourselves. hi. my name is vanessa. i'm one of the program managers here at united players. hi. my name is brandon jackson. i'm a program coordinator for middle school. hi. my name is maria fabia. i'm a k-2 coordinator and i'm rudy

corpus, better known as the gorilla pino, aka rudy valentin. i'm the edd of up. cool, cool. so can you tell us your journey and mission, how you got involved with united players? so originally when i started united players, it wasn't even something that i thought about doing. it was it just all kind of happened organically. i was hired at a nonprofit organization in san francisco called bernal heights neighborhood center, which is in district 11. i got hired as a filipino gang prevention counselor, and so my mission was to go find the filipino gang members, right? in that district 11. there's 11 districts in san francisco. and so i knew who they was all at. i'm born and raised in san francisco. i was appointed at lifestyle, so i knew they was all that went to balboa high school, which is in district 11. in 1994, it was off the hook. and so upon being up at balboa, sure enough, they're all there. big fight ensued,

right between different ethnicities. and from there, nobody was able to learn because of the violence that was going on. between the big fight between filipinos, blacks, samoans and latinos. so myself and several other people, andre alexander, right, shouts out to andre alexander. he was the coach of the football team at bao. there was a brother named late. you remember late big samoan. excuse my language. around six four. you know what i mean? from frisco, north beach, one of my partners. he was a hall guard. and he had, you know, a lot of good credibility with the youngsters that was up there at bao. and so at the time there was a filipino principal, their name was mr. montevergine. she was looking for solutions and the police couldn't stop it. nobody could stop it. so i got what all those dudes, they was able to come in the room they wanted to meet. and from there they wanted to make a club because they came up with all

the solutions and the answers to stop the violence. the kids did. the youth. and so they said, hey, we should name this a club. this is our this is in october of 94. and i gave the power to the people. i said, what do you guys want to name the club that we got right here? because everybody was getting along in the room, you know what i mean? and so united players up october 1994 was born. and that's how the name came. and so boom, fast forward. we're here in 2024 in october. so they're celebrating 30 years 30 years. yeah yeah. worldwide baby. yeah it is worldwide. you have so many people supporting you like kaepernick and yeah steph curry everybody right. they they they yeah they they they all seen i believe the spirit of what we do and what we're about you know which is based on love. everything that we've been doing from day one way back then. way back then we was at balboa high

school. right. so i met that guy at balboa. right. these two sisters right here from the neighborhood that i'm from, you know, i ain't from district 11. i'm from district six. born and raised south of market tenderloin. and so all over the world. and people saw that the love that the youth. right. yeah. who were involved in it, spread it. and you know who don't want to get no love. yeah. so they all part of it i'm thankful. yeah. that's dope. so how did you get involved? well, so i'm born and raised here in south of market area. so, you know they had the rec center over there. and so that's where all the youth would come and just gather. just everyone from the hood, you know, would just play basketball, you know, meet up, hang out after school. so i was in the third grade and i joined basketball for the first time. i was garbage, like totally garbage. didn't like i was not the best, but i had this mentor named tim and he. really. yes. and he really motivated me

and kept me focused and really kept me in the game and say, like, you know, keep going, keep practicing. you could do this. so by the time i got to fourth or fifth grade, you know, i was balling. yeah. you know, and so without his guidance i wouldn't have made it you know that far in playing basketball. but you know rudy he's like the neighborhood hero. he's at the rec at the rec. you know he chopping it up with everybody. and you know he just made everyone feel welcome. and that that was even before there was like a headquarters to even be at, you know. so it was just the rec. that's a public place to be. and so, you know, he just built community there. and, you know, i just felt at home and you've been there ever since, and i've been here ever since. and she's still balling. she's still balling. and yeah, we got to play ball then. so and you started when did you start? i started in sixth grade. i started going to bessie carmichael for the first time. i didn't know anybody except for like my neighbor. and then i got

introduced to united players by bqe. he was my mentor. may he rest in peace as well. he really introduced me to this. he pushed me out of my comfort zone because i was very much like a loner. didn't know anybody, i didn't i wasn't very open to being social with other people. but when i came here, he was like, go introduce yourself to everybody. like left me alone to go introduce myself and i did exactly that. and i mean the rest is history. it's like super fun. everything's cool. so i love it. and you've been with him since how many years now? i don't know, i think maybe 2009. that's amazing because that's when i went to sixth grade. yeah, she was a participant and now she's a staff. yeah. but just just real quick, thank you for bringing up e. so eric, eric also is one of our staff who worked with us, who passed away,

and tim was a mentor of mine. these are all filipino cats that we're talking about, the south of market. we're in here has over 120 year history of filipinos. so as you can see, right, it's filipino too, right there by heart. it's black, filipino, black filipino. you know it's filipino. we was black before we came right. but but but everybody they mentioned is actually been a part of the fabric with the love. tim was love, eric was love. and that's all they did was give out love. and look what we got here now. love, love. all right brother, when did you get involved with. i was at bell back in. oh four, and rudy wanted me to be a part of up. but unfortunately, due to, like, the gang culture i was a part of, i couldn't. because basically the people that i really didn't get along with was already in u.p. so it was kind of like i couldn't be a part of up even though i wanted to. but due to stuff that transpired, i was just like, i can't do it, i

can't do it. you know? and then how did i end up getting the job here? shout out to my mentor, mike brown. may he rest in peace. i got a call from mike brown. he asked me, was i open to working with kids still? because i was working with kids over there in my neighborhood and i said, yeah. and then he was like, call this man named rudy. and i was like, rudy. i'm like, i only know one. you know, one rudy in the city. so i happened to call rudy and then did an interview, and then i got hired down here, and i've been here for 12 years, and it's a blessing. it's a blessing to work with kids. you know? you a blessing, bro. to be a part, to just be a part of a positive environment. yeah. coming from a negative environment, to be a part of a positive environment is a blessing. yeah. you want to talk about that negative environment. negative environment was just growing up being a part of a neighborhood, you know, doing things to feel accepted. you know, not getting the right nurturing love at hom. so you step out your comfort zone to go get it from friends or you know, to when you just want to be loved, bro. it don't matter what environment you're in. it don't matter if it's

positive or negative because love can come from either environment. it's about what environment you choose that you feel like you can succeed in. and at the time, me being a negative thinker at the time due to my way of living, due to my environment inside my household, i chose a negative environment. yeah. so how did you what attracted you to want to come to up at that age? because it's hard for teenagers at times. it just seemed like a fun thing to do. like if i could, if i could go back in time, i think i probably would have been a part of up. but it was just like, you know, when you have to go there and then you still have to go back to your neighborhood and they're like, oh, you was over there with them. like, what are you doing hanging with them? like, you know, that type of stuff. so it was just more like chose a side as a kid. as a kid, i chose a side. and it was like to where i was from. but when you, if i can take it all back again, be honest with you. my message to the kids, it's okay to be the kid that get along with everybody. yeah. that's right. like, you know, it's okay to be that kid to be different and you can get along with everybody without choosing a side that's real. yeah. hey, i just want to add this right. and it's based on a true story. brandon, when i first met him, didn't really want to be a part

of anything but what he was doing. and he was caught up in that negative cycle right of the turf life, that death life, that money back and murder life. it was arrested development. but growing up now, you know his mindset has changed. he really wanted to get with our organization. when he was at bal, i used to try to get at him, but he was hardheaded, you know what i mean? he'd be in the gym shooting three pointers for money, you know what i mean? he was gambling and that's how i would get with him. i'll stand over there with him and chop it up because i come from the same cloth. yeah, but he was one of them youngsters, man. if he would not get involved in something, he'd have been dead or in prison. yeah, with that elbow. yeah. and look at him now. yeah. look what you mean. helping out the kids from neighborhoods that he had rivals from? yeah, on my mama and she in heaven. so, you know his his his mindset has changed. and, you know, i'm really proud of all three of them. what they stand for and what they do for the people. yeah. is it because up is very relatable like rudy as opposed to other teen groups?

you want to explain? yes. you know, you don't see too many people who look like you, who you know, talk like you, maybe dressed like you that are like walking a positive path. right? sometimes a lot of people are just like, you know, like, who can i look up to? right? and you know, kids, we embrace, encourage kids to take pride in their individuality. right. and sometimes kids are just lost and they don't know. they don't have any guidance. they don't have that guidance at home. i was fortunate enough to have two parents, you know what i mean? but not a lot of kids, you know, in this world have that, you know, or they do have two parents. one is just don't have the time or attention to give their kids and so i feel like we fill that void for them. you know what i mean? is it because the community is i mean, it's the parents are too busy workin, so sometimes they kind of not around their children sometimes. so they don't have like, that kind of loving upbringing at

times because they're so on that grind and hustle. yeah. my parents were on that grind and hustle. i felt like there was some gaps that i felt like they didn't feel for me. but then growing up, i also understood what they were like hustling for. that's right. and so and so like i've accepted that as i've grown older, but with some kids, you know, some kids, they have parents who, you know, who are like, you know, who are on drugs. you know what i mean? who are absent, who are not there. you know, some people are raised off love and some people are raised off survival. right? and so really, they're, you know, it's just kids trying to navigate their own lives. and sometimes they don't have that with their parents or their guardians or, you know. yeah. and that's where you, sharp girl stay sharp. big facts. yeah. and that's where up comes in. you guys bring it out. you guys are the bridge that brings the families together. and you guys are kind of. well, you look at the name we're uniting players,

right? and all players is people who are coming together who are doing something positive, productive for their people in the hood. right. you got united players and you got united haters. some people don't want to connect and get together and that's cool too. that's a part of life. yeah. but we choose man to live. we'd rather live than die. see, our whole thing is based on making it fashionable, making peace fashionable. right. and as vanessa was speaking, you know, most of us filipinos, we grow up right. i'm first generation, our parents, the way they show us, they love us is they out there grinding? most of them don't tell us they love us. they just do it. and you don't understand that. you know what i mean? till, like you said, you get older, then you realize why they was doing what they was doing. because my mom and dad, you know, they grow up. they ain't never told me to this day. and they both of them, you know, passed away. they didn't say it out loud. right. and so you won't love if you ain't hearing it. you going to find it somewhere. yeah. so i was not i was even on the sidewalk on the porch. i was on the street at an

early age. but all that time they was showing it by their actions. and now that they're gone, i understood. and now i know what they love was the way they was giving it to me. that's all filipino people was raised. that's true. my parents, my parents were like that too. but you said it very well, though, and that's why i felt you. that's real talk. thank you. yeah. with that said, how has this program evolved over the years since you started? i'm going to let them answer that. sure. so how has it evolved since you were evolved since you were a student and now you're a teacher? it's evolved a lot. like when i was younger, i wasn't, like emotionally, like prepared or like, knew what to do in situations where like, i was like lost or going through some things. i feel like now in the program, like we have us having training with the trauma based intervention or trauma based relational intervention. yes. and a lot of letters on

yeah, it's tbri basically in other words, what is that? can you explain like it's like a trauma based where like you, you're like repairing the bond that you have and like learning to like navigate through those emotions instead of like suppressing them or acting out against them. and i just feel like that is very helpful in today's like, age with the kids that we do have. and it's like a life skill that we're teaching them to take along the way. so they're not like acting up, acting out anywhere in the world. they can at least do it here with us in a safe space where we know how to, like, help them and give them like resources. and i think that's like the major change that i've seen so far. and, and the community outreach that we do, we i mean, we did community outreach when i was in middle school, but i feel like we've,

we've do we've done more now. yeah. and like even during like the pandemic, we were serving like the seniors. we were serving like the senior graduates, like when they couldn't walk the stage. we did a drive by. i think it's changed a lot in like a positive way. yeah. do you want to talk about the mental health part of it? to me, the key of our mission is to help them identify emotions and feelings, because if you can't identify emotions and feelings, if you can't identify it, it's like, how could you control something you can't identify? yeah. you know, and the key is that if you can get the kids to identify it, the younger they are, the better off they will be in the future. you know, it's kind of hard when you get when you get a high schooler and try to restore morals, identity, self-respect and stuff of that nature. you know, like it's kind of harder. so to me, what i identify doing this work is if we can get installed in them at an early age, the better off

they will be when they become adults. say that, then say that then. and can you explain, like the changes you've seen in the kids you got in the beginning to how they became later adults? yeah. so i just want to go off on what rhia was saying about trust based relational intervention. so that is a trauma informed approach to vulnerable youth that we serve who experience adversity and trauma in their lives. right. and so that consists of three main principles. that's empowering. connecting and connecting. so with that, that's our investment into our youth is taking delving in deeper into their lives. right. trying to trying to identify like why they moved, the way they move, why they talk, the way they talk, why, you know, learning about their upbringing. right. and then identifying those factors, like brandon was saying and then being able to nurture those,

nurture them where it's needed, you know, meeting them where they're at. and then you know, being able to transform their lives to where they can be better people, you know, into the world. and so i feel like when we instill those factors like risk, respect, you know, integrity and all that, when we see that translate into our kids and they're showing that and they're ending up teaching their siblings and, and showing you know, you see, you see something that you teach someone and they're actually, you know, putting it into action that's that's rewarding. like, you know, that you're doing the right thing and you know that you're staring them in the right path like beautiful. and man, i love my staff. i love y'all, you know what i mean? they are frontline soldiers, boots to the ground. and they deal with this every day. yeah, right. you guys articulated it so well. and what y'all just said. you imagine us when we all grow up. we was

taught not to cry. we was taught not to express how we feel. right. and when you grow up, you got to express what you feel. and you say, right. and if you do right, you get your ass whooped. you better not cry right. and so if you really think about it, man, our people, our black people, our brown people, way back in the days, we was the ones who cultivated all this, but it was kidnaped from us. and now, you know, you have people who are putting it into letters. but this is something our people always been doing from day one. it just got kidnaped. and so this is really natural for us to give out love and to give it back. yeah. and love ain't no soft word, you know what i mean? it's really spelled no. right. and so the things that we're that that we're learning, i'm still learning it and that they're learning, we're learning from getting trained to teach these young kids who are growing up in a world full of hate. yeah. we winning. and you. right. that is

what we have to do. install those values again because we ain't got them. and this is raising our kids. that's true. you dig what i'm saying? and whatever they scrolling through and they seeing. right. it's the soundbites. yeah. right. what do they call that when you go through there and it keeps coming back. the ads the algorithm. algorithm. no, the algorithm algorithm. right. if you're watching fights all the time and i like fights, but i know it's entertaining to me. i'm asking the little kid who's getting and he's seen it. that's all he's thinking, right? and as in brandon in your head, it's true. it's true. and so it's important that these letters that were taught that's already in our dna from way back in the days in the philippines or in africa, right, or whatever country you come from, or people been having this installed in them. that's why we're receptive to it, you know what i mean? and so when we're learning, we teach this. it's our duty. it takes the hood to say the hood. it takes us to teach our people the truth, right? with the spirit of everything that our people, where we come from, for us to

get by. because this world, man is toe up every day. it gets worse and worse. turn on the news. you see it. you know it's full of hate. and so man, i love what y'all do. y'all frontline soldiers. hearing them speak like this, i ain't used to seeing them speak like this. you know what i mean? yeah. now spitting game like that. that's why i talk about making peace fashionable. right? yeah. we making. we really making it happen in real life. and so man. and that's what makes us so, like, genuine and pure. because even us, we're still dealing with our own trauma, still trying to heal from it. and, you know, but at the same time, you know, we're helping others. we'll help. we're helping you deal with their own traumas and also helping them heal. and so i feel like that that feeds off of each other. and so, like, you know, heal people, heal people who say that, then what? heal people, heal people, man. healers need healing. man. my brand is coming out soon, y'all. y'all go cop that i ain't lying. you know the crazy part is, yeah, the kids feel like they need us, but they don't know we need them more than they need

us. ooh, beautiful. yeah. that's fire right there. true. i'm gonna explain. it's just like we can be having a bad day. but when we come to work, the kids uplift us. the kids, like, you know, take us out of a certain mode and put us in a higher spirit. yeah, spiritually, it don't matter if we play with them, if we laugh with them. play a pick up game of basketball or just crack jokes with them. it's just the interaction you feel me can take our mind off something we have going on outside of work, you know? and then it just put us at a peaceful place. yeah, yeah. kids is medicine true? true. we got we got cats who are coming home out of these penitentiaries who've been going 25, 35, even 45 years straight. right. and they're coming back and giving to our community. but what they fail to realize is what brandon just said. the kids is actually bringing life to them. their medicines to these cats. right. and so, yeah, man, you know, shouts out to all them young kids out there, do you want to talk about big kid? do you want to talk about that program you do with visiting the juvie juvenile juvie? and you can

speak on that. oh, so, so what's big for us is we have a reentry program, right? and right now we have we connected with the justice department at at juvenile, and we got two we got two caseworkers and both the caseworkers are lifers that came home from doing a lot of time in jail based off of making a rational decision, not being able to control their emotions and their feelings. so i think it's kind of big. when we got lifers coming home to connect with the kids in juvenile, and they don't just connect with the kids in juvenile, they come to the they show up at the middle school, they show up at the elementary school. they go to high schools and talk. they go to city college and talk. and it's just like, you got to kill the pipeline, man. the elementary to the penitentiary pipeline has to be killed. and the only way to kill it is people that actually been through it. because the people that been through it know how to kill it, know how to attack it. it's like a tree. you look at the branches and you think, those are the problems? no, it's the root. what is the root of the problem? and that goes back to tbri being able to help people identify and control

their feelings and emotions. yeah. so how did you guys start that program where you go this partnership with like the different jails to be able to talk to the inmates and change their lives and stuff like that. how do we start that? yeah. how do you start that was locked up in there with them. right. and so you know, that's our people. you know what i mean. and accountability is very important. you cross that line. and like beretta said back in the days you do the crime, you do the time. i come from that school. and so a lot of guys who are stand up cats who come home that we know who we've been incarcerated with, right, or we go back in there and we talk to them. they know about what we do because, you know, the streets is really inside them penitentiaries. so they know what's happening out here on the ground and they see all their people. right. who's out here putting in work? that's why i always take pictures, you know what i mean? with all the homies, when they come together and we're talking about cats. when brandon was mentioning the two dudes, you're talking about a adamu and a kiwi. them dudes, man. when enemies. wow, right.

and they're not even from out here. they're from southern california. and so we get all these guys together, north and the southerners, others, right. blacks, whites come together and they take pictures and it spreads everywhere. and so people want to be a part of something that's working. that's winning. yeah. they want to be a part of this player stuff. you know, it's that medicine man. yeah. yep. it's free to shoot. you pay for that. no it's free. come on man, how it's going to be on a shelf in a minute. diversify your portfolio man. that's what 40 taught me. how big is up at this point. shoot. tell them about it. how big is up at this point. how big is you p0i mean we have a headquarters here. i mean what do you mean how big. like it's worldwide, right. like you have philippines. you have other places. yeah. one in new york, one in the philippines. am i missing any we in africa? yeah. you know what i mean. hawaii,

baltimore. south. south bronx. yeah, yeah. how does that make you? good? god is good. god is good. how does that make you feel to see it? like, start from balboa to 30 years later? yeah, man, it feels really good to know that, you know, what started from the people, from the youth has blossomed and blew up, man, to go everywhere around this world and to touch people. yeah, yeah, it's amazing. that is amazing. and you're doing god's work and like. but why do you or why do youth join gangs anyways. i mean it's different now than it was back then, but it's almost the same. like, why do they join like, gangs? i mean, to be accepted. yeah. to be loved. it's more about acceptance and love. i mean, i can't speak for like as a whole. i can ask you, i can tell you why i did it. it was because i didn't feel loved at home. yeah, my daddy did. 16 in the state. my mama raised four kids by herself, and i had the type of mom that go to work, bust her butt, come home, pay the bills,

and it's like, have my house clean. but it wasn't like helping me go over my homework. it wasn't like the nurturing, the nurturing part didn't didn't come. you know, i love her to death, but the nurturing part didn't come. you know? so i ran to the streets and didn't get it there either. yeah, truth be told, didn't get it there. but that's what i was looking for. yeah. acceptance and love. you feel me? yeah. and i think a lot of kids just. it comes from making rational decisions. like, it's like, man, i don't feel the love inside the home. so let me go try to get it out here. and the whole time when you're out there, you're getting manipulated. you know, it's like manipulation is heartache. it's losing friends. it's bullet holes. it's doing stupid stuff. it's jail. it's like, you know. yeah. but to piggyback off what you said, i think it's just acceptance and love. when it comes down to it, you want to be a part of something? yeah. no matter if it's positive or negative. just wanting to be a part of something. yeah, yeah, yeah, they definitely just want to have, like a sense of belonging and like feeling like

they have some purpose. like if you ask the kids right now, like, you know, where do you see yourself or you know, what's your future like? all of them just want to, like, get money and like, you know and have and like have a good life, good, stable life. they just want a good job, you know, have a house, whatever they had, have food on their table. really. that's all what they really wan. and so we try to strive to, you know, push them to their highest level. you know, some kids will say like, you know, i'm only going to make it to high school. but with us being here, like, you can go to college. yeah. you know what i mean? like, you can be bigger than that, but but it's just the simple things that they want, really, is to just be able to, you know, have a good life. yeah. that's true. and how do you explain to the parents or tell them what the signs could be, if that these kids want to join gangs or anything? i've never been in a situation where a student would want to join a gang, but if it ever had to come down to that, it would just be a simple. it would be like a check

in and like, show them like that. the actions that they're taking where it could possibly lead. and you know, and like the resolutions that we could do to prevent that type of stuff going down that road is very is very dangerous. you you never know what's at the end of that road. and, and your life could be cut short when you, when you do those type of things. and i definitely think it's just, just that extra support and the extra, like love and showing that there's a positive side instead of having to join like a gang for just a sense of belonging or, you know, i think they also probably joined for like protection or like, like he said, like no love there. and they find it out there, but it's really not real love. it's just for that moment. yeah. and i think that's the best way we could do it. just set up a plan

and maybe take them out and see a different world. other than, you know, the street life. yeah. what other effective strategies do you guys have for to help the youth stay out of trouble? like, maybe it's not gang. maybe it's not gang life. maybe it's like, yeah, go ahead. just helping them identify their self. a lot of kids like when you when you're in middle school, high school like you lost. like you're trying to find your own identity, you know, and to interact with them. it's like it's more it's just having a conversation. it's one you being a mentor or you being older. you open up to them and get them to open up. it don't matter if it's like just a quick check in. if it's a i'm coming up to your school bringing you lunch, or if it's after school and we're running a boys group, or we run a boys group at at school during school hours, it's just as far as just checking in, helping them identify their self, you know, and letting them know like you're not alone and you're not the first person that's going to deal with this issue, nor will you be the last to deal with

this issue. so when it come up, we help them deal with it. so when they come up and you become in high school and you see a peer dealing with it, you can help them and walk them through the process. yeah. is it and it's not like it's like kind of like a 24 hour job, right? oh yeah. we get calls at night too. when we're at home i get i get calls, i get like for therapy, like i'm gonna get real for therapy. a lot of kids, y'all gonna laugh, but they call me at nine, 10:00. tell me. jump on the game. let's play madden. let's play twok. like that's therapy. yeah, yeah. you know, like that's really therapy. that's the fact that they feel comfortable even calling you after hours and telling you, come on, let's jump on a game. let's play. yeah. you know that. to me that's a form of therapy. you know, it's like. or if they just calling it can be calling like, man, i'm dealing with the issue. it's 10:00 and i'm dealing with an issue. or could you uber me here? i'm stuck. i'm stuck outside. could you uber me here or. i'm at home. i ain't got no food. could you. could you uber eats me some food, like all that is therapy, bro. and it's comfortability. i want the kids to be comfortable to call me because we're humans. we just don't deal with a 9 to 5. a 9 to

5, okay? it intensify after 9 to 5. i learned that from big dog because after 9 to 5, when the sun go down, that's what it's lights, camera action. yeah. real talk. that's community. big facts. community. right. 24 seven 365 baby. yeah. so speaking of community, like how have you worked with like, the city, were you working directly with the city to help keep up alive or working within that partnership with the city to help you guys with your program? so what i learned doing this work is it's important in anything you build is relationships. yeah. right. and so having a city relationships is important. they can get you in places and doors where you can't get right. i used to hate the police and i had a reason why. but now some of the police, i hold them accountable. when we work together because they work for us. just like, you know, our whole thing is about safety and prevention. of course you're going to need them. it's diplomatic to have them at the

table with you. right. and some of them dudes who i met now were officers became cool. you know, some of my best friends. the chief is my partner. yeah. yeah, you know what i mean? and so i learned about relationships and having to build in order for us to get what we need to get, especially in the neighborhood and area we're in. it's important to have those relationships. yeah. you know, i'm trying to build bridges, not walls. yeah. you know, and at the same time, if there's city departments or people who are funders who are not with the mission or our movement, they're not going to miss them altogether. man. like the hiv virus, bro. yeah. you know what i mean? yeah. i'm for real about what we do. we are not no sellouts, you know what i mean? we are for real. we are here. our boots are on the ground. you know, we make sure. i make sure as an ed, no matter if it's the mayor, the supervisor, whoever everybody's being held accountable because we are the people we elect them to work for us. you understand what i'm saying? and so i want to make it real clear, you know what the

city departments and all them who's in action, they're all part of that chess board that that's on the table that we all need each other to make things work. yeah, i mean, they collab with you. they do. they collab with you when you do the gun buyback program, you want to talk about the gun buyback program? sure. i mean, the gun buyback was started 2012, i believe, when sandy hook happened. right. and so y'all know sandy hook or anyway, from that point, there was people who wanted to figure out how to get rid of guns without having to go into all the red tape. and so the first monday that i had was able to get didn't even come from the city. it came from dispensaries in the neighborhood and district six. we got the most dispensaries, and they was willing to put their money up. and so we got that. but when it started working, we had to build relationships with certain organizations to make it happen. i can't just get a gun. you pull up and give me a pistol and you know, i'm an ex-felon. i can't i can't even own a gun. and so i had to get the right, proper people to do that. who was

there? it was the gun range people from sfpd. so they jumped on board. i got the mamas who lost their kids to gun violence. right? i got ex-felons who did life sentences. we got the youth. we got all the pieces on the table to make it work. and now we've been getting over thousands of guns off the streets and destroying them. yeah, the number one killer right now in america for 19 years and younger are gun violence, suicide. right. domestic violence, black on black crime. brown on brown crime. a lot of people don't even know, man. how y'all was talking about the regulate their emotions and their feelings. right. first thing they do is go pick up a gun. they don't even know how to have a conversation with a woman when they argue and they just knock down, you know, and the number one rate of people growing, you know what culture is demographic is asians. is it. yeah. because, you know, a lot of asians are getting robbed. that's true. they getting beat up. so they going to buy guns to protect themselves. get a gun. get a gu. protect yourself. they get the gun. but no. nobody tell them

man. you got to put it in a safe lock. or when you get mad how you regulate your emotion, your feelings and guess what? when they get mad, they go right over and get their pistol man, go kill their wife, or they go to work and kill everybody at their job. yeah. so the high rate man of asians then rose up from gun violence, even though you're buying the gun to protect you and your family, you actually destroying your whole family and your community. wow. you know, so that's where the mental health comes in. like y'all doing the social emotional learning how to regulate everybody. we're all humans. we going to feel something. but how you going to deal with your feelings and your emotions when somebody makes you mad? yeah. you know how to go man. you know girl get you mad. your wife get you mad or your kid get you mad. you mad. you didn't worked all day. you upset and you, man, i'm going to go get my pistol. look at road rage, man. people going crazy, man. they follow you all the way home. you know what i mean? and so? so it's a real high of mental health going on

right now. that's true. do you want to talk about how how violence has evolved from. i feel like it was what was different because we're almost the same age, like physical and still physical, maybe. but now i feel like it's more mental. you want to talk about that? yeah. so yeah, i mean, you know, mental health is it's different because before you would just fight it out. so i don't think they do that no more. i feel like just it's like more mental. you make fun of each other, then everyone will gang up on that one person. it just messes up the bullying. the difference, the difference between the two is back in our day, right? like it's bullying, but it's only like 4 or 5 people. so if we fight only three, four people, this before the phones and stuff. yeah, yeah. only three, four people. then it's word of mouth. yeah. it intensified due to cyberbullying is i can be picking on vanessa, but now 50 to 100 people seen it. yeah. you feel me? then word of mouth spread and then a video. go viral, you know, and then it's like, okay, now back, just go back to the tbe trying to identify emotional feelings. so now, i mean i'm more embarrassed

because now you post a video of me up, now everybody can see a post of just one high school seeing it, and it's spreading through one high school. now, all the high schools in the city can see it because it's a video posted. right? so then that intensified the hurt, the anger. and then it's more like, man, how could i go get even how could i, how could i go get my lick back, you know, opposed to back in our era? it was just hard. we fight, we squabble. word of mouth. who won? he can say he won. i can say i won, but it's no. and it's just. all right. it gets swept under the rug. and then. and then you got a gun. you got access to guns where they're everywhere. you can make them off the computer. now. you got ghost guns, right? yeah. and you got war weapons. now you ain't got just regular the 38, you know what i mean? with the five bullets in them. you got something, man? with a clip in it and a switch, and you pop that thing, man. you gonna knock everybody down in this room with one squeeze of the trigger, right? but i want to be real clear, though, jeremy. i am not against the second amendment. you got the right man to bear your arms. if somebody man runs up in your crib or

harms your family, you got the right to protect you and your family. by all means. i'm not trying to say i'm getting rid of all guns. if i had a wand around this world and could do it all at one time because america got more guns here twice or triple times than we got people, i'd do that. but the reality is there's guns everywhere. that's true. you might be sitting on one. yeah, i might be. yeah, i feel i feel something. so for y'all like how has the experience of working. like what will you take with you for the rest of your lives working here and being a participant? would i take with me for the rest of my life, your life long lessons? i mean a lot a lot. you know, standing on your principles. you know, being true to yourself, you know, not selling your soul. you know, just being standing on your toes. you know, standing on your ten toes, spreading love. just moving with the spirit of love. always like not operating off

your ego and your pride and, you know, just spreading awareness and just being mindful. yeah. how about you? you. i'm a firm. i'm a firm believer of you're a product of the environment you choose. so by me coming over here, it was more of the family environment. i enhanced. i embraced it because i didn't have it growing up. you know, to a certain extent, i didn't have it growing up. so it's more of like the family atmosphere of it. the, the, the it takes a village to save it, to save a child like, you know, to raise a child like that's real. like, you know, because it's like when you're out there, you you can, like, get cold hearted because you're living in survival mode, not off love. you know, when i came here back in 2012, it was more like, damn, this is a nurturing environment. this is love. like this is love. this is where people going to hold you accountable. people going to call you on your stuff, people going, people want what's best for you and people going to push

you to do what's best for you. the key to it is pushing you to do what's best for you as a staff. if y'all pushing each other to do what's best for you, it ain't no doubt in my brain that we're doing the same thing for these kids. yeah. you know, and at the end of the day, those who control the kids mind control the future. it ain't no doubt in that hell. it ain't no doubt in that those who can control the kids mind control the future. rap songs and stuff that they listen to at times they control the kids brains and you see what the kids do. gang culture, pick up guns, shoot guns, ride around in groups, you know, and do that type of stuff. so i just feel like as far as here, what this has done to me, family atmosphere helped me stand on principles. morals helped me gain confidence in myself. not just in the kids, but confidence in myself and actually pushed me to actually want better for myself. my kids come to the program with me. it was beautiful, like, you know, like beautiful. my kids come here with me. of course, if i, i would, i would always want my

kids to be a part of something positive. you know? and due to the fact i made the wrong decision by not in high school, by not choosing it ain't no way in hell i'm going to let my kids do the same thing and make the same mistake i made. fax. that's beautiful. big facts about yourself. i think they all had such amazing points and i agree with that. i, i definitely also want to say like empathy and compassion. i feel like like everyone goes through some things and like, and that's oka. and just continuing to move with the spirit of love through everything. and, and that's, that's really it. and speaking of the spirit of love, how does religion play a part in if any? and you guys rule? i feel like that religion and believing in something within this kind of like community always is very strong. i feel like it don't

matter if you pray to allah. it don't matter if you prays to god. it don't matter what god you prays to because to each his own. but it is a god. you feel me? it is a god. and god woke us up this morning. god put us all on the same page and god bring us together collectively every wednesday to have staff meeting here based off for the kids. it all comes down to for the kids, you know, and spiritually. spiritually, you can feel the vibe. you can tell when somebody's vibe off based off body language, based off being able to read the room based off, oh, he acting different today. now let me go reach out to him. yeah. hey. how you doing today? you need help. you need a hug. you straight? how can i help you? i can tell your vibe off. and when you do a staff member like that, or even with the kids like that, that just let you know you're loved. yeah. feel me? so when you pay spiritually, it's just about being loved, you know? and that's going back to what we talked about before. everybody want to be loved. people make decisions based off of wanting to be accepted and

who don't want to be accepted by love. yeah, i'll speak on that. like difficult times. and how does religion like it seems like people go through really difficult times become really closer to god. yeah. so to me, religion is a terminology and word that i feel is something i can't relate with because i've been through a lot of different religions, whether it was raised as a catholic or went to the kingdom halls, or even studied with the noi. right? i believe it's about a relationship with a higher power. like you said, there is a god. jesus christ is my lord and savior, straight up 100 million. that's who i accep. and to each his own. like be said, you know what i mean. some people serve man, you know, the moon or the sun or the devil as my savior, jesus christ, i believe man that's. and i know for a fact that's what put me in

a position where i'm at now with my purpose on this planet. and i'm very honored. i'm very honored that i'm very that i'm in a position i know where my purpose in my life is because you got to have direction. yeah. and it gave me life. it gave me direct. this is my life. saved my job no more. yeah. this is my life. all day, every day. you know what i mean? yeah. 365 24 seven. i live it, i breathe it, but i thank god every morning when i wake up and at night before i go to sleep. and many times in the middle, you know what i'm saying? and thank him and honor him when it's good and when it's bad. yeah. and so from the beginning, when all this transpired, you'll be surprised what i have seen god done to evolve the evolution of what up is now, you know, i'm a cat from the south of market who come from the trenches, who now has an organization. i used to. i used to be the leader of my gang in this neighborhood. we had a little gang, man. we were

colored like this burgundy with skulls on the back. little kids all coming up. but i was the leader and i always ran. i always led with passion, you know what i mean? and i always led man with that spirit. yeah. and to this day, even when we started back october in 2000, i mean, 1994, we always prayed with all the thugs. that's who jesus was with. he was with the thugs. he was with the killers, the robbers, the steelers, the prostitutes. that's what the whole bible, the story is. bible basic instructions before leaving earth. that's the manual of life. and that's what he did, man. he gave the spirit to the thugs and all them. and they wrote that book the best selling book that's out that is free, that most people don't even open. see, we all guarantee one thing in life with two, pay your taxes. and guess what else to die? because while death, life has no meaning. and if you do not have that spiritual food because you got people walking all around there, you see it.

they alive, right? but they're not living. you have to have some spiritual food in your life because man can't live on bread alone. man, y'all got me sound like a preacher up in this camp. you know what i mean? but all the way from the beginning, jeremy, we praying in. and to this day. what do we do when we have our wednesday meetings? we pray in and we pray out. come on, man, it's always been god, god, god, the biggest gangster on this planet. because what's his name? start with b jesus christ g. god. yeah. that's why we're. that's why you're so blessed, rudy. and you're so blessed to have you. not a place i'm blessed, you know. and prayer really works. god is real. i've. you know, i've prayed. i don't go to church, but my relationship with god is what's important to me. my relationship with my ancestors is more important to me. but like i've seen my prayers manifest into real life, and so just having that faith in god

just keeps me going and keeps me blessed. amen, amen. you ain't sitting on a gun. you sitting on a bible because this is actually what we have. our service in this room. yeah, i can feel it on my mama. she in heaven. and speaking of that, like so, uncle rudy, how much has uncle rudy made an impact in your lives? i ain't uncle hold up, man, i ain't that old yet. hold on. i still outrun everybody in this room. i hear people call you uncle rudy. so i'm. yeah, i ain't gonna. i'm gonna say he touched more lives than you can imagine. more lives than you can imagine. and mine based off just being there for me, giving me opportunity. give me a second chance, you know, to work with kids, you know? and me working with kids helped me regrow my heart. so i don't even like adults. i'm a kid. i don't like adults. adults are manipulative. adults are conniving, and adults

can can be very misleading. as far as kids, i feel like the kids can't do no harm for me. the kids can be corrected and i feel like it's a blessing. he gave me opportunity and i took it and ran with it, took it and ran with it. i'm forever blessed and, you know, just just having a positive person in your life, you know, you can be feeling down and you can go have a conversation with him. you're gonna leave out that room with high spirits. you feel me with high spirits? yeah. he's just based off the message he give you. yeah, he helped me a lot. he helped me a lot. and i'm very grateful. it's beautiful. far from appreciative. far from unappreciative. yeah. it's beautiful. yeah. yeah. uncle rudy, he's always be speaking life into me, into everybody. and i feel like, you know that that really does take me to a higher place when i feel really

down and stuff. and i feel like, you know, you give everybody an opportunity to, like, reinvent themselves and to be able to, you know, be a brand new person every day. and that, like you, you don't even like, look at the past of, like, who you used to be or who they used to be. you just see the greater good into people. and i feel like, you know, everybody's here for a reason. and you see exactly why. and like, yeah, like you've just been there. you be there when i'm down and out when i'm up and happy. even my mama call you sometimes, you know, you know it's all love all the time. you got the flip phone flip i want that call. yeah, yeah, i like that. thank you. thank you for your kind words. awesome. beautiful. so, i mean, what would that said? like seeing how many lives you change. what are your what is your hopes for the future of united players? and do

you have any other upcoming like works coming in like more partnerships with like what do you what's your hopes for the for up 30 more years to eternity for life by more buildings, by more buildings, maybe have our own recreational center one day so we can have our own creator up high school. oh yeah. you know how to play high, higher. that'd be cool. take a more global. that's right. yeah. wherever god takes us, that's where we're going and keep leading. so what i've learned from this, this conversation is that there is a definitely there's a definite future for the youth with you guys as the leaders and the of our community, especially soma. and you're in good hands with rudy. i wish they had this when i was young. they didn't have that when i was growing up in in the east bay, like near richmond, vallejo, hercules. i mean, we had a lot of gang violence, and i had a lot of friends that were

also, like affected by gangs and didn't make it out of their their teenage years. so it would have been beautiful to have that. so i'm so thankful that just for our community and for just for life, that we have something like up, because we didn't have that growing up. and to know that there's an organization like this that's going global, it's being recognized by everybody. yeah. and you're saving lives. i mean, there's still people that are going to fall through the cracks, but you guys are doing your very best to catch them. and so i'm very thankful to have learned from each of your stories here from everybody. definitely feel the love and just thankful. next time we do this, we'll have like a lechon and lumpia. we'll do a dinuguan. thank you for having us. yeah. thank you, thank you, thank you for letting our voice be heard. yes. let me phrase it that way. yeah, well, thank you for being a voice for the community. it's beautiful. so. yeah. thanks again. for. sense.

>> my name is kelly ma cord i'm the owner and manager with my husband tom of mission brooks. >> blue we're neighbors first when we first came in into the neighborhood got involved and an opportunity to get plugged into

the merchants cord we see mission blue come together around the pastry. so when we looked at the neighborhood we say the garden here with the greenway and so many butterflies what is the the butler friday of this area and said mission blue we're going to call this because i was in a - and because of neighborhood was so beautiful we wanted to be part of this coming along with the neighborhood and valve that. >> one of the great, great secretaries of valley we're aware of the crosstown trail for those of you who don't know it is 17 mile trail and it cuts introduce not only our cord but the greenway and the telling her there are 6 gardens were built by the neighborhood for the

neighborhood and been here over 2 decades an incredible place. the rolling arrived in a truck every saturday morning in the plaza. and they take that is assessable to every one of our neighborhoods we have a full neighborhood in case no. 6934 greenway for fruits and vegetables we love to ask missions to come it is like a eco system over there on saturday morning one of our goals. >> your greatest reward in the community it included within our retail so those one hundred and 10 artist for the thing i'm passionate about is the future from loco loco deep-rooted friends.

you are watching san francisco rising with chris manor. today's special guest is sarah phillips. >> hi, i'm chris manors and you are watching san francisco rising the show about restarting rebuilding and eare imagineing the city. the guest today is sarah phillips the executive director of economic workforce development. welcome to the show. >> thank you for having me. let's talk about the city economic plan and specifically the city's road map to san francisco future. can you give a brief overview and update on progress? >> absolute e. in february 2023 mayor breed

released the roadmap comprised to 9 strategies to move the city forward understanding there was structural and lang lasting changing by the covid impact. 134 were shorter term impacts how people using transit downtown and coming out and are using small businesses, some of them remember long-term structural impacts. the way we work. how often we are in an office and how much office space companies who had headquartered in san francisco need. some of those were structural impacts how we stop. there has been a long-term change as online shopping takes up a greater share how we performs and covid-19 took a shift that would probably take 10 to 15 years happen and collapse what happened ofern the timeframe to 2 years so saw structural impacts how people

shop. we have seen a lot of progress rchlt we are 9 months in and significant things we have seen is efforts creating permitinant services and homes for people experiencing homelessness is dramatic. we increased the number of shelter beds dramatically and take-up of the beds dramatically, and there is more work to do. on the safety side there are exciting things that happened. we increased our police pay among the highest in the bay area which is a important thing for recruitment. police recruitment across the country is down so recruiting the best we can means we need to give a high pay set. august the highsh return in graduates. we see 75 decrease in retail

theft and 50 percent reduction in car break ins which is quality of life crime san francisco experienced so there is real progresses we are seeing on clean and safe sides. one thing important in the mayor roadmap we are not trying to get back to 2020 vision. i think covid showed having a downtown with people sitting at offices isn't the best downtown it can be. i think it is a opportunity to bring 24 hour life use downtown. >> music and concerts is a great way to bring people to a specific location. golden gate park we had lots of events in plazas throughout the city. can you talk about those and if there is upcoming events too? >> i think you touched on something key to the mayor road map. for san francisco and particularly san francisco

downtown to move forward and be successful as a great american city, it is about bringing people together because they want to be together not because they center to be together and music is a strong part that. the planet concert sear ries coming up and happening throughout the city not just golden gate park but downtown locations are a great example. there are smaller examples as well. the landing at--is a new plaza we constructed in the mayor roadmap where two streets come together akwraisant to a couple restaurants closed to cars in daytime, chairs and seating and throughout the week they have lunch time and evening music to bring people together after work. they participate in that. something we are working on setting up for next year which is really exciting is our sf live program and that will bring a full 2024 concert

series where we match local venues bringing their work and partnership to useian square, music center plaza and embark cadero. we will be able to announce concert series through the sf- >> you mentioned vacant to vibrant, that program has a lot of attention lately. can you talk generally what exactly that program is? >> yeah. so, we opened a program where we put out a call for landlords willing to offer groundfloor space for free for 3 to 6 month jz small business or storefront operators who had a proposal what they would do for 3 to 6 months. it is pilot. we had a incredible amount of

interest. we had--i'm forgetting the number of landlords, but more then we expected because we are in a place where commercial real estate understands they need to come to the table to help make our groundfloor lively and resulting in a transition where the groundfloor is seen less as a money making operation, but more as a leader to lease upper floors. if you have a active ground floor yields better on the other 80 percent of the building you are trying to lease. that was great, a lot of cooperation scr over 700 small business or operators responded to that call. it is pop up. there is no intention this would result in forever small businesses, but there is certainly a hope and i think what we are hearing, i don't have the final data, but there are 17 activators in 9 different spaces, some are colocated, which is why the difference, and out of those 9 spaces that are being leased for free, now 7 of them are in

discussions for long-term leases so the spaces continue. it is the program. we are hopeful to have a second and third traunch and hoping to pilot in other neighborhoods with other partners. it is not an inexpensive program because there is a lot of capital that goes into popping up for short amount of time but what we are seen is they visit the businesses, the businesses are successful and san francisco want to support this activation so hopeful to expand it. >> that's great. can you talk a bit about why piloting programs and testing things is so important? >> absolutely. you know, i would say not only the important generally but important in san francisco specifically. the benefit of pilot programs in the reasons they are really important here is, it allows us to try something and say, there may be consequence but let's understand those in real time rather then waiting to start a

strategy while we think about them on paper and if they are too great we can modify the program as we go. mta has absorbed the strategy whether a bike lane or other to figure how best to use the street? is this working? is it working for bikes and cars and buses? maybe not, let's switch it around and pilots have been important to oewd to our office particularly because we tend to have the ability and the mayor's support through the budget process to pilot things through request for proposals or rfp process where we can put out a small amount of funding, try activation and small public plaza, see if it works and i think the benefit there is, if it doesn't work we tried it and had the benefit of seeing real time and when it does work, we are able to uplift that and

move into a permanent strategy and that is where our agency turns over something we piloted to another agency because it is part of the city operating procedure. pilots also give people hope. when we have the short-term whether it is physical public plaza or activation that shows change is possible and allows them to vote for what they like. >> lastly, in lith light of the current ai boom, do you think there is a way to leverage those new changes to take a bunch of san francisco's status as a tech hub? >> i do, i think they work together. san francisco right now has a strong vacancy problem in our office space. and there is a back-story to that. our zoning downtown has not prevented other uses, in terms

of permitting uses of the multi-story building has been open including allowing residential but we put other barriers, cost and code barriers et cetera and what happened also during the height of our preevious boom is that, the amount that tech companies were willing to pay for office space bid everything out so we-without intentionally zoning a single use downtown, we de facto became a single use downtown and thereat is the opportunity you are pointing out. now because downtown was so convertible from work from home, particularly as tech based downtown was and how much companies put at the market in the office spaces we are seeing high vacancy now, all most 30 percent so there is lot of square feet but that presents a lot of opportunity. we have the ability to absorb expansion of the tech industry we are so strong at.

we have seen over 800 thousand square feet of ai space leased just in 2023 alone and there is still more demand out in the market, more ai companies looking for space so that is a growth spot absorbing some of the vac ancy. the opportunity too is prices for downtown lease s have also dropped and that opens up a breath of opportunity to a breath of companies that were priced out in 2018, 2019, 2020. san francisco has always been great at starting companies and allowing them to grow here. when our prices are too high it prevents that growth so now we are a super fertile ground for more start ups and invasion on the smaller end of the sector because they can come and enter our market and we have the space to offer. to talk about san francisco's assets and the leveraging that, we sit at the epicenter of really great university and educational institutions.

we are between uc berkeley and stanford. the graduates produced just from those institutions alone stay in the bay area and want to rise up and work here, provide a real opportunity for the start ups to build their companies and companies to grow here so we confident we will absorb a certain amount of office space with ai tech. with that, we are interested in increasing our human capital growing graduates. downtown university is something the mayor is open to pursuing and we are in conversations with uc berkeley we love to have as a partner in our downtown and then residential conversions are a great partner to that. as we build back the office space, people will want to live downtown again and we have a number buildings that can be converted to residential. the costs are high. mayor breed and her partners on the board made significant changes to reduce the costs. we waived fees for change of uses in the downtown area.

there are code changes that will make the conversions easier. there is a ballot measure on the march ballot that will attempt to reduce costs for those as well. it is ongoing process and none of those changes we talked about absent ai growth downtown, but institutional growth downtown, arts growth downtown and residential conversions downtown are long-term changes so one thing i want to say recollect i do think there is a opportunity per your question, but we also need to be patient because what we are talking about is is a real shift to the make-up of the downtown since from the growth it has been starting at since the turn of the century so that isn't a 2 year change, that is a 10 year change and we center to watch as it goes. >> thank you so much. i really appreciate you spending the time here today and your creative vision and positivity, so thank you so much. >> thanks so much for having me and hope you all downtown and shop. >> that is it for this episode.

for sfgovtv i'm chris manors, thanks welcome to san francisco's new revitalized qatar valline this is not just an upgrade is a community transformation. taraval street under a complete make over from 10 feet below the street to 30 feet above. >> it is part of the taraval improve am project to impprove transit performance and make the streets safer for all who use them. completed on time and on budget, this multiagency construction

project is a once in a generation investment to bring safer, more reliable train service, increased accessibility. beautiful corridor, refresh roadway and reliable water and sewer systems for decades to come. >> safety is at the forefront of this transformation. new train boarding platforms are a game changer for safety am before the project 5 people per year were hit by vehicles gettinga or off trains we add 22 new or extended boarding plat forms on the route. riders no long are exit on the street along side traffic. when my kids were young it was heard they want to plunge off the train straight in the street. up on the h stop now we have the platform that is broader when they are excited get off the trin and get home i feel better about them jumping off the

train. >> having island where hay step on to is a giant improvement. >> these disability crosswalks look good and improve safety by making it noticeable to drivers. >> sidewalk extensions at intersection corners shorten the distance needed to cross the street and slow downturning vehicles. these and other safety treatments are proven tools to reduce the risk of collisions make the taraval corridor safer and inviting for people walking and driving. another key part was replace being two miles of train track for thes first time in almost 50 years. the old tie and balist track was built for muni oldt cc streetcars and old are light trail trains not today's modern vehicles and it was noise and he

prone to vibration. >> these new rails will make for a smoother, quieter ride and require less maintenance. it is much quieter with the new impresumes i livid here the entire time and plays earthquake or municipal when he it came by now we don't have to play anymore >> before when the streetcar went by i would stop talk the street cars would rumble past now i share that confirmation. i like the fact well is not a 3.4 quake every time they go by now. it is quiet temperature feels like sliding on glass. >> this project is more than rails and concrete it is people earngaging with their community. >> local residents and merchants have told us when their community need and had than i want in their neighborhood. a quieter reliable train roadway

and safer streets for people walk. gi think it is essential. i'm excited and wonderful to have a safe way it get to work i work on embarcadero i take it to the end of the line every day >> through open house, public meetings and surveys members helped shape where the stops should go to the curb plan and selecting trees and art work for the corridor. >> we relied on community feedback during construction of the project. with voting held to choose where to stow construction materials and how to sekwenls the construction. >> as a result the project was split in two segments to reduce impacts to the community. access ability is at the forefront of the design. new features ensure people all abilities enjoy seamless travel on the taraval. these platforms and key locations have a raised boarding

area level with the train to help people with walking aids or strollers board more easily. >> warning lights are flashing. >> pedestrian signal announcements assist with visual impairment its cross the street. new curb ramps are essential in providing accessible path of travel on to and off of sidewalks. the sunset district has long been shaped by transand i the qatar valcontinues linking past to present. on the heels of a new tunnelful muni tear van line opened as a shuttle from westportal to 33rd avenue in 1919. it was not until a few years later the trains used the tunnel sparking a population boom. previously, riders transfer to the circumstance line to go east of what is today known the

westportal neighborhood. by 1923, passengers could catch a one seat read on the taraval between downtown and 48th avenue. for the first time, san franciscans had a connection from the bay to the ocean tide. the taraval street cars brought development people could access the south western neighborhoods. homes and buildings sprung up from the once empty dunes. this vielth east/west corridor is the spine the neighborhood carrying over 30,000 daily riders when service last ran the route in 2019. today, it is a bustling local business that give this area its flavor fr. cafes to quirky but teaks the taraval connects tout

best of san francisco's small business scene. >> i lost fact it is not a money on cultural it is multicult rar. korean, chinese. vietnamese. french. italian. we got irish. we got a lot of good mix on this street of restaurants and businesses in those cultural veins and good ole american. helping local line help our small businesses because this is again a small community. and the traffic here is not if you have to generate big revenue. with the l train from other parts of the city to this area has help us the small merchants as well to generate more business. >> taraval street is a reflection of the outer sunset's unique character. >> this two mile stretch of

transit is not just getting from a to b it is reimagining how we move through our city to shop, dine and experience more in the places we live. >> i live in the suburbs i have to take a car or a bus that was an experience i never did again as a teen. now my kids can visit their friends cross the establishment it is a huge increase in their freedom and independent. one of the reasons we chose to raise a family in san francisco. >> it is wonderful to have a safe, clean reliable way to get to work for the neighborhood i'm excite body what it means to bring others back to our neighborhood. we have, let of interesting shops and restaurants and i'm excited to see how things become when it is easier to get here. >> a lot know each actively it is a close knit community. in my shop i know customers by name i know what they'll order and i have it ready for them.

>> what i'm most excite body the street is now unified, we have new paved roads and new rails. and new lighting. new boarding island. >> today, your new street features newrism upgrade water and sewer pipes. 5 new priority signals that hold green lights when trains approach. sidewalk extensions to make pedestrian crossing safer. high visibility crosswalks and ramps. safe boarding islands and platforms. new trees, landscaping and art. is it time you responsiblesed this corridor to the end of the line? with great food, walks on the beach and san francisco's new add upon ventures a ride away now the sunset district is more accessible than ever.

[♪music♪] ♪♪ ♪♪ >> my name is andrew england the owner and collector at real old paper. i'm a native to the bay areaismt grew up in oakland, spent high school years here and lived in hawaii about

10 years. moved back shortly. been in san francisco proper now for about 8 years. when i realized i wasn't a dealer anymore in san francisco, i found openings and decided to opening my own store in north beach in 2016. north beach was a great place to start. i got a neighborhood feel from it. i got involved in the community, but as far as business turnover, fisherman's wharf is 2 fold, 3 fold because there are so many more people here. we have been here going on 3 and a half years. i started as a hobbyist. i started collecting movie posters in high school. not originals. just favorite. when i mouved to hawaii there was a gallery that specialized in viptage posters and that taught me about the variables beyond movies and

that is where this is my career path and what iment to do. i with irked for them for 8 years, took a portion of pay in store credit so i built a collection basically and turned it into a brz. business. hobby turns business and forch int. i got bitten by the poster bug it spiraled out of control and i needed to a store to outlet my collection. san francisco has always had a viptage poster dating with 1970 with chicago new york and paris san francisco is a city with a area to buy vintage posters so people appreciate the time capsule and history. all are vintage. most in the store is at least 40 plus years old, some back to the 1800s so we have some 140 years old. they are advertisement,b war propaganda from world war 1 and 2.

movie and with travel posters and alcohol and tobaccos. thin pieces of paper meant to last maybe a mujt or 6 weeks. the lowest point was the pandemic. having to close the gallery so i didsant have a web store biltd or outlet and barely a instagram and told all the customers don't buy on line. can't be sure they are authentic or true colors or size or condition. it was very frustrating. it was a struggle until this opportunity presented itself and when i moved into this location on the wharf, there was still nobody here yet. we hadn't officially reopened but i rolled the dice, spent everything i had left to build this place out, and give it one last shot. it worked out very well. it worked out very well. >> here we have the 1971 for the fight. ali and frazier first meeting. the one first professional loss.

there is a lot that appreciate the story and understand the esthetic and message and nuances within the graphic. the champagne [indiscernible] wonderful piece. it carries both styles. it has the [indiscernible] in his garb. he has shoes and fits the earlier periods, but done in the style of art deco and that is what we offer and part of the experience knhing into the store. we will walk through the purchase and explain how we preserved it, what are the imperfections and what does the imagery mean. you have the older story and the newer story, pasted over the top. we will give you all that information. about everything. it may not be your favorite piece until you heard the story. i are think i always had in the back of my mind a second location outside the state. i dream is tokyo, but i do a lot of consulting in las vegas with pon stars group so thought about opening

a shop in las vegas. we like to branch out at some point. we are from here and where the company started and where we'll stay, we may just also open another store. i love being here. this is where my family is, this is where i was raised and not ready to leave that behind cht yes, people are looking for this store and there are fewer and fewer store fronts, brick and mortar like ours that outlet this thing. we offer the experience. i think it is very desirable collective subject matter because we are less and less acustoms. you can pick it while looking at it. examining the flaws and scale and color. you know what you are getting because you get that exact one. poster art is my area of expertise and i have affinity for. poster art especially they are not meant to last are under appreciateated. real paper, the vintage gallery is 777 beach street, tuesday-saturday

11-5 and monday 12-5. . >> thank you for being here. from my first day in office i said that public safety is my top priority. everything we're trying to achieve in this city depends on people feeling safe in our neighborhoods, at our businesses and on our streets and transit. and because of the hard work of the men and women of the san francisco police department and the leaders and partners standing with me today, we are making real